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Does God Predict?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Van, Sep 25, 2024.

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  1. Van

    Van Well-Known Member
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    In 1 Peter 1:11 several translations indicate God "predicted" Christ's sufferings. The idea of the translators apparently being that God looked into future and told us the future which is known by God. Among these are the RSV, ESV, NASB, NIV and WEB.

    The other view of course is that God told us what would occur because God would cause it to occur. This is the biblical view.

    The Greek word "promartyromai "- G4303 is compound and refers to a factual testimony of planed future action. Thus if a person said "I planned to rob him" that would be "promartyromai." Thus a reliable witness giving testimony of future activity.

    When God tells us what will occur in the future, He is telling us what He will accomplish in the future, what He will cause to happen, such as the predetermined plan for Christ's suffering and death.

    Too often unstudied believer's buy into "Crystal Ball Theology."

    When Jesus took action to "fulfill" what was written, it was God causing to happen what He had declared beforehand would happen.

    See Matthew 1:22, Matthew 2:15, Matthew 2:23, Matthew 4:14, or Matthew 26:54. God declares the end from the beginning, then causes the event or circumstance to occur. Knowledge of a fixed future is nowhere to be found.
     
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    Actually your witness is telling us what he planned to do (in the past tense), without a future reference.
    If that person said, "I will rob him", that is a telling beforehand.
    Whether or not it happens depends upon the reliability of the witness.

    How reliable is the Holy Spirit?

    Rob
     
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    As to this salvation, the prophets who prophesied of the grace that would come to you made careful searches and inquiries, seeking to know what person or time the Spirit of Christ within them was indicating as He predicted the sufferings of Christ and the glories to follow.

    I also suspect the key here is the ones to whom this was predicted. It speaks of what was given.
     
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    God does not predict.

    God declares what He will cause to happen. What He will "fulfill."
     
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    Since no plan or purpose of God can be thwarted, when God says I planned to rob him, that is tantamount to declaring God will rob him. Job 42:2
     
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