Charles Spurgeon

[shodan]

I didn't think this should be limited to Baptists, so posting here. How many use Spurgeon's "Morning and Evening"?

The first devotional book I bought was Oswald Chamber's "My Utmost for His Highest" Love the title. It, like others such as CS Lewis, JI Packer etc is an edited work by someone picking pieces from their larger works. Sometimes context is missing. Chamber's ministry was to full time Christian workers.

Spurgeon wrote his each day with a pastor's heart and with his readers clearly in mind.
Aside from print, it is online several sites. This being one here

Many Spurgeon fans are unaware of his brave stands against slavery and Christians and war.
On that topic, here is my question at the Spurgeon Library Conference....<Link

 

[Cathode]

I didn't think this should be limited to Baptists, so posting here. How many use Spurgeon's "Morning and Evening"?

The first devotional book I bought was Oswald Chamber's "My Utmost for His Highest" Love the title. It, like others such as CS Lewis, JI Packer etc is an edited work by someone picking pieces from their larger works. Sometimes context is missing. Chamber's ministry was to full time Christian workers.

Spurgeon wrote his each day with a pastor's heart and with his readers clearly in mind.
Aside from print, it is online several sites. This being one here

Many Spurgeon fans are unaware of his brave stands against slavery and Christians and war.
On that topic, here is my question at the Spurgeon Library Conference....<Link

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A man can choose pacifism for himself as an individual, but not for a whole society.

As Aquinas pointed out. Whilst tolerance of one’s own suffering in the face of great evil demonstrates great virtue, toleration of others in his society suffering in the face of great evil is a very grave sin.

Spurgeon is very wrong making a blanket injunction, he was a man who hasn’t seen the horrors that can happen out there.

If a man is to go to war, he must do so dispassionately, without hatred, it’s just a job.
Men generally have an innate gift of compartmentalising, it comes in handy in the situations I have faced.
You can deal with things without trauma, still get a fantastic nights sleep.

 

[Oseas3]

A man can choose pacifism for himself as an individual, but not for a whole society.

As Aquinas pointed out. Whilst tolerance of one’s own suffering in the face of great evil demonstrates great virtue, toleration of others in his society suffering in the face of great evil is a very grave sin.

Spurgeon is very wrong making a blanket injunction, he was a man who hasn’t seen the horrors that can happen out there.

If a man is to go to war, he must do so dispassionately, without hatred, it’s just a job.
Men generally have an innate gift of compartmentalising, it comes in handy in the situations I have faced.
You can deal with things without trauma, still get a fantastic nights sleep.

Speaking of wars, the point of this topic is about WAR of demons, war between demons, as was revealed by GOD and is described in Daniel 2:26-49, whose prophecy was not still be fulfiled as a whole, but will from now on.
Now we are living exactly in the time of the feet and 10 toes of the statue of Nebuchadnezar's dreem, part of iron and part of clay (Dan.2:41-42), it means that from now on the Devil will build his 5th and last KINGDOM upon the earth(actually the FIFTH OF THE HELLS), it will be BUILD by the dragon-Revelation 13:11, a false Jewish lamb, a false messiah-future ruler of the esoteric and kabbalistic Judaism-John 5:43-47(THE CLAY), and the ruler of the ROMAN Catholic Church-Revelation 13:1-9(THE IRON), there will be SPIRITUAL WORLD WAR-Revelation 13:5-9.

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Speaking of War of this current time, there will be a SPIRITUAL world war against three UNCLEAN SPIRITS LIKE FROGS, a satanic trinitry - Revelation 16:13-14, take a look.

And JESUS warned: Revelation 16:15-> Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

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This Scripture will fulfill LITERALLY from now on: Revelation 11:15-18

15 The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before GOD on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped GOD,

17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord GOD Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.

18 And the nations were(WILL BE)angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be Judged, and that thou should give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and should DESTROY them which destroy the earth.

Be prepaed or elese get ready

Matthew 25:41 & 46

41 Then shall JESUS say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye CURSEDA, into everlasting fire, prepared for the Devil and his messengers:->46 These shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

Get ready

 

[Van]

A man can choose pacifism for himself as an individual, but not for a whole society.

As Aquinas pointed out. Whilst tolerance of one’s own suffering in the face of great evil demonstrates great virtue, toleration of others in his society suffering in the face of great evil is a very grave sin.

Spurgeon is very wrong making a blanket injunction, he was a man who hasn’t seen the horrors that can happen out there.

If a man is to go to war, he must do so dispassionately, without hatred, it’s just a job.
Men generally have an innate gift of compartmentalising, it comes in handy in the situations I have faced.
You can deal with things without trauma, still get a fantastic nights sleep.

Thanks Cathode, I was not familiar with the distinction between choosing to turn the other cheek when evil is done against me, and not turning the other cheek with evil is done against others. Another distinction, one I was familiar with, is response based on our individual choice, and response based on the authority of the church, or of government. The church speaks against evil and the government acts using force against evil.

I have known several Marines who were Christians that we troubled with resolving Christ's instructions for individual action and for collective action under government authority.

 

[Cathode]

Thanks Cathode, I was not familiar with the distinction between choosing to turn the other cheek when evil is done against me, and not turning the other cheek with evil is done against others.

There are finer points to consider. Would your action to defend others have a high chance of success? Would your action to defend others most likely make the situation worse than inaction?
Saint Augustine goes through these moral calculations in his “Just War” writings. Very important for all Christians to read this heavy theologian for a precise clarity on those moral questions.

Another distinction, one I was familiar with, is response based on our individual choice, and response based on the authority of the church, or of government. The church speaks against evil and the government acts using force against evil.

The Government is there for the “ Common Good “ not the “ Greater Good “ that many ideologies have been destructively asserting these last two centuries. I steer well clear of people who aren’t grounded morally and talk of the “ Greater Good “.

I have known several Marines who were Christians that we troubled with resolving Christ's instructions for individual action and for collective action under government authority.

I have helped soldiers resolve these kinds of issues, one bloke was carrying a very heavy weight for years, and talking him through it totally lifted it for him. A little bit of clarity can bring huge relief to people. Jesus doesn’t want people to be shivering in dark fear and dread like that, especially if it is groundless.

 

[shodan]

A man can choose pacifism for himself as an individual, but not for a whole society.

As Aquinas pointed out. Whilst tolerance of one’s own suffering in the face of great evil demonstrates great virtue, toleration of others in his society suffering in the face of great evil is a very grave sin.

Spurgeon is very wrong making a blanket injunction, he was a man who hasn’t seen the horrors that can happen out there.

If a man is to go to war, he must do so dispassionately, without hatred, it’s just a job.
Men generally have an innate gift of compartmentalising, it comes in handy in the situations I have faced.
You can deal with things without trauma, still get a fantastic nights sleep.

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"A man can choose pacifism for himself as an individual, but not for a whole society." Yes. Spurgeon directed this comment to CHRISTIANS NOT to his whole society.

But " not seen the horrors of war".?...Spurgeon was very aware of the horrors of wars of the British Empire in which he lived.

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[Cathode]

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"A man can choose pacifism for himself as an individual, but not for a whole society." Yes. Spurgeon directed this comment to CHRISTIANS NOT to his whole society.

But " not seen the horrors of war".?...Spurgeon was very aware of the horrors of wars of the British Empire in which he lived.

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Being aware of it, like reading a newspaper and tutting over it whilst warming his toes by the fire type aware of it.

Seeing the horror firsthand convinces a man not to be pacifist regarding others suffering, some things are so evil that it must be met and confronted with force. It would be sinful not to.

A man can choose pacifism for himself as an individual, but not for a whole society." Yes. Spurgeon directed this comment to CHRISTIANS NOT to his whole society.

His whole society was Christian. However, his idea is not correct, even for Christians.
Pacifism is an individual’s privilege one can indulge in all one wants, but it’s not something to be inflicted or expected of anyone else.

 

[Oseas3]

Being aware of it, like reading a newspaper and tutting over it whilst warming his toes by the fire type aware of it.
Seeing the horror firsthand convinces a man not to be pacifist regarding others suffering, some things are so evil that it must be met and confronted with force. It would be sinful not to.

His whole society was Christian. However, his idea is not correct, even for Christians.
Pacifism is an individual’s privilege one can indulge in all one wants, but it’s not something to be inflicted or expected of anyone else.

Your thinking is from a human and evil perspective, A STUMBLING BLOCK, not from GOD's perspective.
What matters and prevails is the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD, GOD Himself, GOD the Father, Self-executing.

What does the Word of GOD say about the believers In Christ JESUS? 1John 3:1-10:

1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of GOD: therefore the WORLD knoweth us not, because it knew Him not.

2 Beloved, now are we the sons of GOD, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear(this wonderful event will happen soon), we shall be like Him; for we shall see Him as He is.

3 And every man that hath this hope in Him purifieth himself, even as He is pure.

4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.

6 Whosoever abideth in Him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known Him.

7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as He is righteous.

8 He that committeth sin is of the Devil; for the Devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of GOD was manifested, that He might DESTROY the works of the Devil. (This effect occurs by the Power of the Word of GOD, the Word is GO, the Almighty)

9 Whosoever is born of GOD doth not commit sin; for His seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of GOD.

10 In this the children of GOD are manifest, and the children of the Devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of GOD, neither he that loveth not his brother.

 

[Piper 2]

I didn't think this should be limited to Baptists, so posting here. How many use Spurgeon's "Morning and Evening"?

The first devotional book I bought was Oswald Chamber's "My Utmost for His Highest" Love the title. It, like others such as CS Lewis, JI Packer etc is an edited work by someone picking pieces from their larger works. Sometimes context is missing. Chamber's ministry was to full time Christian workers.

Spurgeon wrote his each day with a pastor's heart and with his readers clearly in mind.
Aside from print, it is online several sites. This being one here

Many Spurgeon fans are unaware of his brave stands against slavery and Christians and war.
On that topic, here is my question at the Spurgeon Library Conference....<Link

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I've used morning and evening for years on and off with my wife.