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“The prodigal son and the unjust Steward”

Let us consider the prophetic meaning of the parable of the prodigal son. Considering that the Gospel of Luke is entirely devoted to the events that relate to those called “vnto the marriage supper of the Lambe” (Rev.19:9)(KJV611), it is easier for us to understand what period of time is spoken of in the parable of the prodigal son. In this parable, we are shown the events related to the people of Israel in the second half of Daniel's last week, on the day of the Enthronement and Marriage of the Lord Jesus Christ, as well as on the eve of eternity, when the 1000 years of peace will end.

"Fiery serpent"
 

Oseas3

Well-Known Member
IS NOT THE PERSON OF HOLY SPIRIT THE LAWFUL / LEGITIMATE YOUNGER BROTHER OF JESUS? LUKE 15:v.32

1John 5:v.7

There are three that bear record in heaven, the Father-The WORD- , the Word-The Word made flesh-JESUS- , and the Holy Spirit (who is not a ghost as is written in English language, but a Person) : and these three are One.

THREE DIVINE PERSONS
We need to re-estudy our conceptions about the person of Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Truth, mentioned in John 14:v.16 and 26, and I hope he helps to all to know him better, because he is not the own JESUS in His return as some think, no, absolutely no. In fact, he is the third among the three.

Isaiah 42 - The Person of the Holy Spirit -> Younger brother of JESUS??? Ancient of Days??? Michael???

1 Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.
2 He shall not cry, nor lift up, nor cause his voice to be heard in the street.
3 A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking flax shall he not quench: he shall bring forth Judgment unto truth.
4 He shall not fail nor be discouraged, till he have set Judgment in the earth:
and the isles shall wait for his law.

5 Thus saith GOD the Lord, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:
6 I the Lord have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;
7 To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.
8 I am the Lord: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.

9 Behold, the former things are come to pass, and new things do I declare: before they spring forth I tell you of them.
10 Sing unto the Lord a new song, and his praise from the end of the earth, ye that go down to the sea(GENTILE PEOPLES), and all that is therein; the isles(the CHURCHES OF THE LORD WITHIN THE SEA-GENTILE PEOPLES), and the inhabitants thereof.
11 Let the wilderness and the cities thereof lift up their voice, the villages that Kedar doth inhabit: let the inhabitants of the rock sing (the believers in JESUS), let them shout from the top of the mountains->(Micah 4:1, take a look).
12 Let them give glory unto the Lord, and declare His praise in the islands(in the Churches).

13 The Lord shall go forth as a mighty man, he shall stir up jealousy like a man of WAR(Revelation 12:7-12): he shall cry, yea, roar; he shall prevail against his enemies(Revelation 19:19-21).

14 I have long time holden my peace; I have been still, and refrained myself: now will I cry like a travailing woman;I will destroy and DEVOUR at once(Hebrews 12:29 combined with Isaiah 33:14-15 and Revelation 11:18).
15 I will make waste mountains and hills, and dry up all their herbs; and I will make the rivers islands, and I will dry up the pools.


16 And I will bring the blind by a way that they knew not; I will lead them in paths that they have not known: I will make darkness light before them, and crooked things straight. These things will I do unto them, and not forsake them.
Amen

1Corinthians 1:27-31
27 But GOD hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and GOD hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath GOD chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:
29 That no flesh should glory in His presence.
30 But of Him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of GOD is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:
31 That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.

Genesis 1:16 - Biblical Mysteries ->Proverbs 25:2->It is the glory of GOD to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings(Revelation1:6; 5:10 & 20:6) is to search out a matter.

Around 2000 years ago our Lord JESUS said: My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.-John 5.17. According Biblical Chronology JESUS came here around 4000 years after Adam, so it still was the the END of the fourth GOD's Day.
Genesis 1:16- And GOD made two great lights; the Greater Light to rule the day(1Thessalonians 5:3-5 and 8-11),
and the Lesser light to rule the night: He made the stars also->DANIEL 12:3.

First GOD the Father provided (MADE) the Greater Light-> Then JESUS came and said: I am the Light of the WORLD (like the Sun)
: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life(like the Sun; the Sun also is life).

AND THE LESSER LIGHT: The Lesser light is the person of the Holy Spirit-Isaiah 42:1-14 (like the moon receives the light from the Sun, the person of the Holy Spirit receives light from the Greater Light-JESUS- to reflect His light-John 15:26 mainly combined with John 16:12-15. I am writting this by Him.

And our GOD made also the STARS. About the STARS made by our Lord GOD, the prophet Daniel prophesied, saying: Daniel 12: 3
3
And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the STARS for ever and ever.
MAINLY IN THIS CURRENT TIME of APOCALYPSE, this prophecy MUST LITERALLLY be fulfilled: Daniel 12:1-2
1
And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people(would not be HE the person of the Holy Spirit, the Ancient of days, the younger brother of JESUS? This is a good question): and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time(Matthew 24:15-15): and at that time(the current time) thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book(Revelation 7:1-8).

2
And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life (1Thessalonians 4:16-17), and some to shame and everlasting contempt. Again: And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the STARS for ever and ever. -->Daniel 12:10-> Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried(Revelation 19:9&8); but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand. Aleluia.


GOD BLESS
 

David Lamb

Well-Known Member
IS NOT THE PERSON OF HOLY SPIRIT THE LAWFUL / LEGITIMATE YOUNGER BROTHER OF JESUS? LUKE 15:v.32

1John 5:v.7

There are three that bear record in heaven, the Father-The WORD- , the Word-The Word made flesh-JESUS- , and the Holy Spirit (who is not a ghost as is written in English language, but a Person) : and these three are One.

THREE DIVINE PERSONS
We need to re-estudy our conceptions about the person of Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Truth, mentioned in John 14:v.16 and 26, and I hope he helps to all to know him better, because he is not the own JESUS in His return as some think, no, absolutely no. In fact, he is the third among the three.

Isaiah 42 - The Person of the Holy Spirit -> Younger brother of JESUS??? Ancient of Days??? Michael???

1 Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.
2 He shall not cry, nor lift up, nor cause his voice to be heard in the street.
3 A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking flax shall he not quench: he shall bring forth Judgment unto truth.
4 He shall not fail nor be discouraged, till he have set Judgment in the earth:
and the isles shall wait for his law.

5 Thus saith GOD the Lord, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:
6 I the Lord have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;
7 To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.
8 I am the Lord: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.

9 Behold, the former things are come to pass, and new things do I declare: before they spring forth I tell you of them.
10 Sing unto the Lord a new song, and his praise from the end of the earth, ye that go down to the sea(GENTILE PEOPLES), and all that is therein; the isles(the CHURCHES OF THE LORD WITHIN THE SEA-GENTILE PEOPLES), and the inhabitants thereof.
11 Let the wilderness and the cities thereof lift up their voice, the villages that Kedar doth inhabit: let the inhabitants of the rock sing (the believers in JESUS), let them shout from the top of the mountains->(Micah 4:1, take a look).
12 Let them give glory unto the Lord, and declare His praise in the islands(in the Churches).

13 The Lord shall go forth as a mighty man, he shall stir up jealousy like a man of WAR(Revelation 12:7-12): he shall cry, yea, roar; he shall prevail against his enemies(Revelation 19:19-21).

14 I have long time holden my peace; I have been still, and refrained myself: now will I cry like a travailing woman;I will destroy and DEVOUR at once(Hebrews 12:29 combined with Isaiah 33:14-15 and Revelation 11:18).
15 I will make waste mountains and hills, and dry up all their herbs; and I will make the rivers islands, and I will dry up the pools.


16 And I will bring the blind by a way that they knew not; I will lead them in paths that they have not known: I will make darkness light before them, and crooked things straight. These things will I do unto them, and not forsake them.
Amen

1Corinthians 1:27-31
27 But GOD hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and GOD hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath GOD chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:
29 That no flesh should glory in His presence.
30 But of Him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of GOD is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:
31 That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.

Genesis 1:16 - Biblical Mysteries ->Proverbs 25:2->It is the glory of GOD to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings(Revelation1:6; 5:10 & 20:6) is to search out a matter.

Around 2000 years ago our Lord JESUS said: My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.-John 5.17. According Biblical Chronology JESUS came here around 4000 years after Adam, so it still was the the END of the fourth GOD's Day.
Genesis 1:16- And GOD made two great lights; the Greater Light to rule the day(1Thessalonians 5:3-5 and 8-11),
and the Lesser light to rule the night: He made the stars also->DANIEL 12:3.

First GOD the Father provided (MADE) the Greater Light-> Then JESUS came and said: I am the Light of the WORLD (like the Sun)
: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life(like the Sun; the Sun also is life).

AND THE LESSER LIGHT: The Lesser light is the person of the Holy Spirit-Isaiah 42:1-14 (like the moon receives the light from the Sun, the person of the Holy Spirit receives light from the Greater Light-JESUS- to reflect His light-John 15:26 mainly combined with John 16:12-15. I am writting this by Him.

And our GOD made also the STARS. About the STARS made by our Lord GOD, the prophet Daniel prophesied, saying: Daniel 12: 3
3
And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the STARS for ever and ever.
MAINLY IN THIS CURRENT TIME of APOCALYPSE, this prophecy MUST LITERALLLY be fulfilled: Daniel 12:1-2
1
And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people(would not be HE the person of the Holy Spirit, the Ancient of days, the younger brother of JESUS? This is a good question): and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time(Matthew 24:15-15): and at that time(the current time) thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book(Revelation 7:1-8).

2
And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life (1Thessalonians 4:16-17), and some to shame and everlasting contempt. Again: And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the STARS for ever and ever. -->Daniel 12:10-> Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried(Revelation 19:9&8); but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand. Aleluia.


GOD BLESS
I am sorry, but I don't really understand what you mean by the Holy Sprit being the younger brother of Jesus. Jesus is called the only-begotten Son of God. God the Father didn't have two Sons. The Holy Spirit is never referred to in the bible as either the brother of Jesus or as Son of God.
 

Oseas3

Well-Known Member
I am sorry, but I don't really understand what you mean by the Holy Sprit being the younger brother of Jesus. Jesus is called the only-begotten Son of God. God the Father didn't have two Sons. The Holy Spirit is never referred to in the bible as either the brother of Jesus or as Son of God.
Isaiah 7:14-16 can help to interpret more correctly. By the way, The personage revealed in Isaiah 7:14-16 is not the same who is revealed in Isaiah 9:6-7. -> These are two different Persons, one is JESUS, of course, but the other, although called Immanuel, who needs know to refuse the evil, and choose the good, he is another, not JESUS, so who is he?
 

David Lamb

Well-Known Member
Isaiah 7:14-16 can help to interpret more correctly. By the way, The personage revealed in Isaiah 7:14-16 is not the same who is revealed in Isaiah 9:6-7. -> These are two different Persons, one is JESUS, of course, but the other, although called Immanuel, who needs know to refuse the evil, and choose the good, he is another, not JESUS, so who is he?
I have never heard anybody saying that Immanuel is not Jesus. After all, Matthew writes:

“"Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel," which is translated, "God with us."” (Mt 1:23 NKJV)

The Holy Spirit came upon Mary to enable her to conceive, as Luke tells us, but it is not the Holy Spirit who is referred to as Immanuel, but the One conceived in her womb.
 

Oseas3

Well-Known Member
I have never heard anybody saying that Immanuel is not Jesus. After all, Matthew writes:

“"Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel," which is translated, "God with us."” (Mt 1:23 NKJV)

The Holy Spirit came upon Mary to enable her to conceive, as Luke tells us, but it is not the Holy Spirit who is referred to as Immanuel, but the One conceived in her womb.
The same Scripture is also applied to the person of the Holy Spirit ->his birth is in Revelation 12:1-2and 5. -> Scriptures reveal: And in the midst of the seven candlesticks (7 Churches of Asia-Revelation 1:13 ) one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. -> This revelation was written around 65 years after JESUS's ascension.

John 16:12-15- JESUS revealed, having said that
: ->12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.

13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all Truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

John 15:26 - JESUS left very clear, saying:
26 - when the Comforter is come(the Paracleto), whom I will send unto you from the Father,
even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me: ->Luke 15:17-32 combined with Isaiah 7:15-16 and mainly Hebrews 7:3).

1John 5:7 -> 7
For there are three that bear record in heaven(haven? Ephesians 1:3-10), the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit (who is not a ghost as is written in English language, but a Person) : and these three are One.

He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches;
 

David Lamb

Well-Known Member
The same Scripture is also applied to the person of the Holy Spirit ->his birth is in Revelation 12:1-2and 5. -> Scriptures reveal: And in the midst of the seven candlesticks (7 Churches of Asia-Revelation 1:13 ) one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. -> This revelation was written around 65 years after JESUS's ascension.
Revelation 12:1-2 & 5 says:

“Now a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a garland of twelve stars. Then being with child, she cried out in labor and in pain to give birth.” (Re 12:1-2 NKJV)

“She bore a male Child who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron. And her Child was caught up to God and His throne.” (Re 12:5 NKJV)

Nothing about the Holy Spirit. To say that must mean the Holy Spirit is born doesn't fit with Scriptures such as Genesis 1:1-2:

“In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was without form, and void; and darkness [was] on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.” (Ge 1:1-2 NKJV)

The Holy Spirit was already there in the beginning. He wasn't born at some later time.
John 16:12-15- JESUS revealed, having said that : ->12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.

13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all Truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

John 15:26 - JESUS left very clear, saying:
26 - when the Comforter is come(the Paracleto), whom I will send unto you from the Father,
even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me: ->Luke 15:17-32 combined with Isaiah 7:15-16 and mainly Hebrews 7:3).

1John 5:7 -> 7
For there are three that bear record in heaven(haven? Ephesians 1:3-10), the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit (who is not a ghost as is written in English language, but a Person) : and these three are One.

He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches;
But none of those verses call the Holy Spirit "Immanuel". Incidentally, I fully agree that "Holy Spirit" is far better than "Holy Ghost."
 

Oseas3

Well-Known Member
Revelation 12:1-2 & 5 says:

“Now a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a garland of twelve stars. Then being with child, she cried out in labor and in pain to give birth.” (Re 12:1-2 NKJV)

“She bore a male Child who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron. And her Child was caught up to God and His throne.” (Re 12:5 NKJV)

Nothing about the Holy Spirit. To say that must mean the Holy Spirit is born doesn't fit with Scriptures such as Genesis 1:1-2:

“In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was without form, and void; and darkness [was] on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.” (Ge 1:1-2 NKJV)

The Holy Spirit was already there in the beginning. He wasn't born at some later time.
Your thinking is from a human perspective, not from GOD's perspective. Who is the MAN child which was born from the woman closed WITH the Sun, the Sun of Justice, the Greater Light-John 12:46 combined with Genesis 1:16, called JESUS, and having the moon, the Lesser Light-Genesis 1:16, who receive from the Light of JESUS because the Lesser light, the person of Holy Spirit has not light in he himself-John 16:12-15 and 15:26, he needs to receive Light from JESUS to shine in the midst of the candlesticks like unto the Son of man-JESUS-Revelation 1:13, and it is he who gives support or sustentation to the woman, the Church, being UNDER her feet, understand? -> Yes, who is he was sent by JESUS here? John 16:12-15 and 15:26 combined with Revelation 11:4?

It seems you still don't know the Holy Spirit, one of the three who testifies in heaven-1John 5:7 combined with Ephesians 1:3-10, probably neither GOD the Father and JESUS, as JESUS said->No man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal Him.-> It is very different between to only hear to speak of GOD, and to KNOW Him. James 2:19, take a look.
But none of those verses call the Holy Spirit "Immanuel". Incidentally, I fully agree that "Holy Spirit" is far better than "Holy Ghost."
Holy Spirit is not a Holy ghost. Holy Spirit is Holy Spirit.period. The Person of the Holy Spirit does not accept being called BY THAT SILLY NICKNAME, by no manner of means. It's a mockery, understand?
 

Zaatar71

New Member
I have never heard anybody saying that Immanuel is not Jesus. After all, Matthew writes:

“"Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel," which is translated, "God with us."” (Mt 1:23 NKJV)

The Holy Spirit came upon Mary to enable her to conceive, as Luke tells us, but it is not the Holy Spirit who is referred to as Immanuel, but the One conceived in her womb.
Yes David, you are clear on this.
 
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