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ALL Shall Come To REPENTANCE (II Peter 3:9)

KenH

Well-Known Member
45 minute video.

"This sermon deals with a misunderstood and misapplied verse relating to God's purpose and grace toward His "beloved", which those in false religion try to use to teach that God loves all men and women without exception and is desirious that ALL WILL BE SAVED."

 

Charlie24

Well-Known Member
45 minute video.

"This sermon deals with a misunderstood and misapplied verse relating to God's purpose and grace toward His "beloved", which those in false religion try to use to teach that God loves all men and women without exception and is desirious that ALL WILL BE SAVED."


The good preacher here is basing his sermon on a false claim, as all Calvinists do!

John makes it clear in 1 John 2:2 that Christ is the propitiation/satisfaction for the sins of the believers, AND NOT FOR OURS ONLY, BUT ALSO FOR THE SINS OF THE WHOLE WORLD.

You see, the good preacher began with a lie to prove Election.

Christ died for the sins of the whole world, Ken, He is the satisfaction for the sins of every person who has ever lived on this earth, I know you deny it as all Calvinists deny it, including all who hold to the 5 points.

Until you accept this fact you will remain on the juice, blind and unable to see the truth. That God wants ALL the world to be saved, but God doesn't always get His way with man, that's because man has been given the free will to choose his own way.
 

KenH

Well-Known Member
Christ died for the sins of the whole world, Ken, He is the satisfaction for the sins of every person who has ever lived on this earth, I know you deny it as all Calvinists deny it, including all who hold to the 5 points.

And you think that Christ shed His blood in vain for the goats.
 

KenH

Well-Known Member
but God doesn't always get His way

Then you think that God is no greater than the false gods of Greek mythology, or even the "superheroes" in modern day Marvel movies; you think sometimes God achieves what He wants and sometimes He doesn't. Therefore, you put the creature as being above and more powerful than the Creator.
 

Silverhair

Well-Known Member
And you think that Christ shed His blood in vain for the goats.

Christ accomplished exactly what He intended to do. He provided the means for all to be saved. Those that trusted in Him were saved. Those that do not trust but instead reject Him were able to be saved but they chose not to take that final step and trust in the risen Christ.

All that Mat 25:32 tells us is that at the final judgement God will separate those that have freely believed from those that have freely rejected salvation through faith in the risen Christ.

Christ shed His blood for all not just some
1Jn 2:2 He Himself is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.

Joh 3:17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him.

There is the problem Ken, you just can not get past that false philosophy than a group of men came up with.

The bible is clear but you just can not see it or rather you will not see it.
 

Charlie24

Well-Known Member
And you think that Christ shed His blood in vain for the goats.

Ken, Christ is the atonement for the sins of the saved and also for the sins of the whole world.

All you have to do is read what John plainly said!

But the holders of the 5 points can't accept this, they will deny it till the cows come home.

Why? Because if they admit what John has clearly written, then that means salvation is available for everyone in this world.

Now we can't have that can we? So you are in denial of the plain Word of God so you can hold on to a lie.
 

timf

Member
One might see in the legal right to take revenge the ownership of the right for having paid for all the sin.

Rom_12:19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
 
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