What mans religion teaches about faith and repentance !

[Brightfame52]

Are Faith and Repentance evangelical truths that must be preached ? The answer is absolutely yes, Jesus said Lk 24:47

And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

So its no doubt that sound Gospel preaching includes repentance. However where men go wrong is when they make repentance and or faith conditions for Justification before God ! They say that men and women for whom Christ died are not justified, made righteous before God without them ! They are in essence saying that everything Christ did for them in His Person and Work fell short in making them righteous/justified before God.

 

[Charlie24]

Are Faith and Repentance evangelical truths that must be preached ? The answer is absolutely yes, Jesus said Lk 24:47

And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

So its no doubt that sound Gospel preaching includes repentance. However where men go wrong is when they make repentance and or faith conditions for Justification before God ! They say that men and women for whom Christ died are not justified, made righteous before God without them ! They are in essence saying that everything Christ did for them in His Person and Work fell short in making them righteous/justified before God.

Faith and repentance are the conditions that must be met to be justified.

God doesn't tap you on the shoulder and declare you justified! You must repent and believe.

Why do you think the Scripture says, "He has commanded all men everywhere to repent?"

 

[Brightfame52]

@Charlie24

Faith and repentance are the conditions that must be met to be justified.

False teaching, not taught in scripture.

 

[Charlie24]

@Charlie24




False teaching, not taught in scripture.

As I've said before, it's unbelievable how so very unlearned the Calvinist is to the Word of God!

My 7 year old granddaughter understands the only way to God is through faith and repentance.

It's written everywhere in Scripture, but you turn a blind Calvinist eye!

 

[Silverhair]

@Charlie24




False teaching, not taught in scripture.

Faith
In theology, the assent of the mind or understanding to the truth of what God has revealed.
Evangelical, justifying, or saving faith, is the assent of the mind to the truth of divine revelation, on the authority of God's testimony, accompanied with a cordial assent of the will or approbation of the heart…

Repentance
a change of mind, or a conversion from sin to God.

Eph 1:13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise,

Joh 5:24 "Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.

 

[Brightfame52]

As I've said before, it's unbelievable how so very unlearned the Calvinist is to the Word of God!

My 7 year old granddaughter understands the only way to God is through faith and repentance.

It's written everywhere in Scripture, but you turn a blind Calvinist eye!

The things you promote are not biblical

 

[Charlie24]

The things you promote are not biblical

I rest my case on the Calvinists being unlearned in Scripture!

 

[Brightfame52]

Faith
In theology, the assent of the mind or understanding to the truth of what God has revealed.
Evangelical, justifying, or saving faith, is the assent of the mind to the truth of divine revelation, on the authority of God's testimony, accompanied with a cordial assent of the will or approbation of the heart…

Repentance
a change of mind, or a conversion from sin to God.

Eph 1:13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise,

Joh 5:24 "Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.

Okay

 

[Brightfame52]

I rest my case on the Calvinists being unlearned in Scripture!

Scoffing of the Truth

 

[Mikoo]

Are Faith and Repentance evangelical truths that must be preached ? The answer is absolutely yes, Jesus said Lk 24:47

And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

So its no doubt that sound Gospel preaching includes repentance. However where men go wrong is when they make repentance and or faith conditions for Justification before God ! They say that men and women for whom Christ died are not justified, made righteous before God without them ! They are in essence saying that everything Christ did for them in His Person and Work fell short in making them righteous/justified before God.

Can you explain a little more? Does that mean all men and women whether they have no faith in Christ and don't repent of their sins are all saved?

 

[Silverhair]

Okay

So you are finally coming around to the biblical truth that "faith and repentance are the conditions that must be met to be justified."

 

[Brightfame52]

Can you explain a little more? Does that mean all men and women whether they have no faith in Christ and don't repent of their sins are all saved?

I will be elaborating in subsequent posts. Do you grasp whats said so far ?

 

[Brightfame52]

So you are finally coming around to the biblical truth that "faith and repentance are the conditions that must be met to be justified."

Im not coming around with you. I acknowledged a couple of scriptures you posted, you offered no exegesis or explanation. Now if you post scripture, its okay with me

 

[Silverhair]

Im not coming around with you. I acknowledged a couple of scriptures you posted, you offered no exegesis or explanation. Now if you post scripture, its okay with me

That is a lame excuse there BF. Are you not capable of reading a text.

What do you think those verse say other than what the clear text shows.

But you do agree with them so you must have had a change of mind from your deterministic philosophy.

Good to see that the light of truth is starting to shine in you.

 

[Silverhair]

Can you explain a little more? Does that mean all men and women whether they have no faith in Christ and don't repent of their sins are all saved?

If you study calvinism that is the conclusion that you would have to draw.

Their theology has people saved before they have even trusted in Christ and then later have to be given faith so they will believe.

They have it backwards of what scripture teaches

 

[Zaatar71]

If you study calvinism that is the conclusion that you would have to draw.

Their theology has people saved before they have even trusted in Christ and then later have to be given faith so they will believe.

They have it backwards of what scripture teaches

Would you be able to quote one of these people teaching that, so we could see what you mean?

 

[Silverhair]

Would you be able to quote one of these people teaching that, so we could see what you mean?

Calvinists/Reformed have it backwards
Calvinists teach that we must be born again with life from the Holy Spirit before we may respond to God in any way.

“A cardinal point of Reformed theology is the maxim: ‘Regeneration precedes faith.’ [R.C. Sproul Chosen By God, pp.72-73].

“A man is not saved because he believes in Christ; he believes in Christ because he is saved”. [L. Boettner The Reformed Doctrine of Predestination, Page 75]

They have a person saved prior to them believing in Christ Jesus.

Regeneration: In theology, new birth by the grace of God; that change by which the will and natural enmity of man to God and his law are subdued, and a principle of supreme love to God and his law, or holy affections, are implanted in the heart. Webster

 

[Dave G]

It's not "Calvinism" to teach that faith and repentance are gifts from God.
It is stated in the Scriptures:


" And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,
25 in meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
26 and [that] they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will." ( 2 Timothy 2:24-26 ). <-----God has to give repentance to someone...even to the acknowledging of the truth.

" Then Peter and the [other] apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.
30 The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.
31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand [to be] a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins." ( Acts 5:29-31 ). <---- Repentance and forgiveness of sins is something that is given by God, not earned through man's actions.

" When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life." ( Acts 11:18 ). <----- God must grant someone repentance to life ( salvation )...it cannot be required beforehand, because of man's stubborn and willful resistance to Him and His commandments ( Romans 1, Romans 3, Psalms 10, Psalms 14, etc ).

Repentance does not, nor ever has, preceded a person's being born again, saved, etc.

 

[Van]

Are Faith and Repentance evangelical truths that must be preached ? The answer is absolutely yes, Jesus said Lk 24:47

And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

So its no doubt that sound Gospel preaching includes repentance. However where men go wrong is when they make repentance and or faith conditions for Justification before God ! They say that men and women for whom Christ died are not justified, made righteous before God without them ! They are in essence saying that everything Christ did for them in His Person and Work fell short in making them righteous/justified before God.

Yet another gobbly-gook post. How does a person receive the reconciliation provided by Christ's sacrifice on the cross? Do we, if we repent from going our own way and turn to God and trust fully in Christ as our savor plus nothing, automatically save ourselves. Nope.

But are they "pre-conditions" enabling possible access to God's grace? Yes. Only when and if God credits a person's faith as righteousness does God transfer that person into Christ, thus the person "believed into Christ." But only if God made the determination, not the human.

Christ did not die for specific pre-chosen individuals, He died as a ransom for all. God chooses individuals during their physical lifetime, after they "believe in the truth." 2 Thessalonians 2:13

 

[Alan Dale Gross]

making them righteous/justified before God.

The Baptist London Confession of Faith of 1689, says God is Able to Justify the sinner, after they are Made Righteous,
which is the result of the sinner's sin, first, having being Pardoned.

"Of Justification", point 1 has;

"(a) Those whom God Effectually Calleth, He also freely a Justifieth,
not by infusing Righteousness into them, but by (b) Pardoning their sins,
and by Accounting and Accepting their persons as (c) Righteous;

"not for anything wrought in them, or done by them, but for Christ’s Sake alone;

"not by Imputing Faith itself, the Act of believing, or any other (d) Evangelical Obedience to them, as their Righteousness;

"but by Imputing Christ’s Active Obedience unto the whole law,
and Passive Obedience in His death for their whole and sole Righteousness,

they (e) receiving and resting on Him and His Righteousness, by Faith, which Faith they have not of themselves; it is the Gift of God.
( a Rom 3:24, 8:30; b Rom 4:5-8; Eph 1:7; c 1Co 1:30-31; Rom 5:17-19; d Phi 3:8-9; Eph 2:8-10; e Joh 1:12; Rom 5:17).

Repentance does not, nor ever has, preceded a person's being born again, saved, etc.

Absolutely not.