The body goes back to its form , dust and clay/dirt…it decomposes
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Devout NT Believers Bury Their Own
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Scripture More Accurately
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You are absolutely correct that cremation is an intentional desecration of the physical bodies that God made for His glory. In the material universe, there isn't anything else that God has created that even remotely compares to the glory of the physical body (Ps. 139:14). Holding that upon death the physical body becomes a worthless "shell" to be disposed of however it suits the fancy of people is utterly contrary to the entire tenor of the Bible from Genesis 1:1 to Revelation 22:21.
What a horrifically contradictory message it is that people whom God has saved from the fires of hell are free to use fire to destroy the bodies of His people.
Silverhair
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Still not biblical text just your unsupported opinion.
The only verse that I see which comes close is
Mat 10:28 "And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
So we see that the body and the soul are distinct man can kill/destroy the body but only God can destroy both.
So, if a person is in a fire and the body is totally consumed? ...
The habit of adding modern concepts into Scripture is very common.
It's something we should guard against.
While an argument can be made that cremation "promulgates violence against the human body", the point cannot be biblically supported.
Cremation while generally not the usual practice of the Israelites, it occurred in rare instances;
An example is the gathering of Saul and his sons after their death, mutilation and humiliating public display by the Philistines in 1 Samuel 31:8–13.
“all the valiant men arose and went all night and took the body of Saul and the bodies of his sons from the wall of Beth-shan, and they came to Jabesh and burned them there” (1 Samuel 31:12, ESV 2016).
The "valiant men" of Jabesh-Giliead (see 1 Samuel 11:1-11) expressed their gratitude to Saul by rescuing their decomposing remains and carrying them out of enemy territory.
The cremation of their bodes was not a sign of disrespect or dishonor, as indicated by David's grand commendation in 2 Samuel 2:
“David sent messengers to the men of Jabesh-gilead and said to them, “May you be blessed by the Lord, because you showed this loyalty to Saul your lord and buried him. Now may the Lord show steadfast love and faithfulness to you. And I will do good to you because you have done this thing.” (2 Samuel 2:5–6, ESV 2016)
Burial practices vary from culture to culture according to the situation at hand:
Such as burials at sea where the bodies are released into the sea;
In the future, as the sci-fi genre imagines, bodies would simply be ceremonially released into deep space.
Rob
It's something we should guard against.
While an argument can be made that cremation "promulgates violence against the human body", the point cannot be biblically supported.
Cremation while generally not the usual practice of the Israelites, it occurred in rare instances;
An example is the gathering of Saul and his sons after their death, mutilation and humiliating public display by the Philistines in 1 Samuel 31:8–13.
“all the valiant men arose and went all night and took the body of Saul and the bodies of his sons from the wall of Beth-shan, and they came to Jabesh and burned them there” (1 Samuel 31:12, ESV 2016).
The "valiant men" of Jabesh-Giliead (see 1 Samuel 11:1-11) expressed their gratitude to Saul by rescuing their decomposing remains and carrying them out of enemy territory.
The cremation of their bodes was not a sign of disrespect or dishonor, as indicated by David's grand commendation in 2 Samuel 2:
“David sent messengers to the men of Jabesh-gilead and said to them, “May you be blessed by the Lord, because you showed this loyalty to Saul your lord and buried him. Now may the Lord show steadfast love and faithfulness to you. And I will do good to you because you have done this thing.” (2 Samuel 2:5–6, ESV 2016)
Burial practices vary from culture to culture according to the situation at hand:
Such as burials at sea where the bodies are released into the sea;
In the future, as the sci-fi genre imagines, bodies would simply be ceremonially released into deep space.
Rob
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What? That’s not intentional. And it rarely happens
canadyjd
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Pl
Peace to you
Please provide the scripture that supports your claim that cremation is an abomination that God hates.
Peace to you
canadyjd
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How could cremation deny the resurrection of the body? God is able to put the ashes back together for a glorified body.
Peace to you
You are correct ultimately
Burial is a picture of how the body will be raised in glory for eternity
Btw, not sure what I think about it now
Scripture More Accurately
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David did not commend them for cremating Saul. Earlier in the post from which I quote above, you quoted 1 Samuel 31:12 to try to support your point:
1 Samuel 31:12 All the valiant men arose, and went all night, and took the body of Saul and the bodies of his sons from the wall of Bethshan, and came to Jabesh, and burnt them there.
The very next verse shows that what they did was not cremation; they preserved the bones and buried them:
1 Samuel 31:13 And they took their bones, and buried them under a tree at Jabesh, and fasted seven days.
In 2 Samuel 2:5, the text specifies that David commended them for burying Saul.
2 Samuel 2:5 And David sent messengers unto the men of Jabeshgilead, and said unto them, Blessed be ye of the LORD, that ye have shewed this kindness unto your lord, even unto Saul, and have buried him.
There was no Davidic commendation for the burning of the bodies.
The wicked practice of cremation seeks to destroy even the bones of the people--that is not at all what the men of Jabesh-Gilead did in that exceptional situation.
There is zero Bible that commends the abomination of cremation.
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