What God did on Earth's first fourth day.

[Aaron]

What do you understand the reason Genesis 1:16, "he made" being added, not being in that Hebrew text? The stars literally became visible on the fourth day too.

And God made the two great lights, the greater light for regulating the day and the lesser light for regulating the night, the stars also. (LXX, Brenton)

Those that translated the Hebrew texts into Greek understood the phrase, "The stars also" was receiving the action of the phrase, "and God made."

And God made the two great luminaries, the great luminary for rulership of the day and the lesser luminary for rulership of the night, and the stars. (NETS)

If you remove the adjective phrases modifying the big lights, you have: And God made the two great lights...and the stars.

God made the big lights and the little lights.

Your reading, that it's saying the stars just became visible, is simply NOT what the text is saying. Where is the phrase 'became visible'? Our English translators got it right.

 

[37818]

Your reading, that it's saying the stars just became visible, is simply NOT what the text is saying. Where is the phrase 'became visible'? Our English translators got it right.

You answered my question. And we seem not to agree.

 

[Aaron]

You answered my question. And we seem not to agree.

One of us knows how to read.

 

[KJB1611reader]

God made sun, moon, and stars.

 

[Aaron]

You answered my question. And we seem not to agree.

So is the point of your thread to establish the pre-existence of the cosmos?

 

[37818]

God made sun, moon, and stars.

Genesis only writes about their light. Not specifically their creation.

 

[KJB1611reader]

Genesis only writes about their light. Not specifically their creation.

He made the stars also - God made stars.

Greater light and lesser light are defined by the King James Bible as sun and moon.

Its also noted in the 1611 bible.

Shawn

 

[Aaron]

Genesis only writes about their light. Not specifically their creation.

That is patently incorrect.

 

[37818]

That is patently incorrect.

Where in the book of Genesis does God say He "created," "Sun," "Moon."
That God created is not at issue or denied. He doesn't say it the way you want.

 

[Aaron]

Where in the book of Genesis does God say He "created," "Sun," "Moon."
That God created is not at issue or denied. He doesn't say it the way you want.

I'll answer, but just make your point. What are you getting at?

 

[37818]

I'll answer, but just make your point. What are you getting at?

A different Bibilical understand does not necessarily mean not believing the word of God.

 

[KJB1611reader]

A different Bibilical understand does not necessarily mean not believing the word of God.

Dear 37818:

According to the Bible, the two lights are the sun and moon. Also, he made the stars.

Psalm 136

7 To him that made great lights: for his mercy endureth for ever:

8 The sun to rule by day: for his mercy endureth for ever:

9 The moon and stars to rule by night: for his mercy endureth for ever.

 

[Aaron]

A different Bibilical understand does not necessarily mean not believing the word of God.

Why is that important?

I feel like there's something generally rejected or refused that you wish to hallow. What is it?

 

[David Lamb]

He made the stars also - God made stars.

Greater light and lesser light are defined by the King James Bible as sun and moon.

Its also noted in the 1611 bible.

Shawn

I agree. I would just say that the 1611 is not alone in this. For example, the NKJV says:

“Then God said, "Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs and seasons, and for days and years; "and let them be for lights in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth"; and it was so. Then God made two great lights: the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night. He made the stars also. God set them in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth, and to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good.” (Ge 1:14-18 NKJV)

Those verses don't mention the names "sun" and "moon", but neither do they in the 1611 translation, which likewise calls them "the greater light" and "the lesser light."

 

[KJB1611reader]

I agree. I would just say that the 1611 is not alone in this. For example, the NKJV says:

“Then God said, "Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs and seasons, and for days and years; "and let them be for lights in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth"; and it was so. Then God made two great lights: the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night. He made the stars also. God set them in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth, and to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good.” (Ge 1:14-18 NKJV)

Those verses don't mention the names "sun" and "moon", but neither do they in the 1611 translation, which likewise calls them "the greater light" and "the lesser light."

Yes.

 

[37818]

Why is that important?

I feel like there's something generally rejected or refused that you wish to hallow. What is it?

We do not want to disallow believing the Genesis account.

 

[Aaron]

We do not want to disallow believing the Genesis account.

Obviously. But novel notions like the Gap Theory being imposed upon the text are to be resisted through sound exegesis.

 

[37818]

Obviously. But novel notions like the Gap Theory being imposed upon the text are to be resisted through sound exegesis.

Without the so called Gap Theory, there are two views of Genesis 1 what verse day One begins. Verse 3 - 5 or verse 1 - 5.

 

[Aaron]

Just to be clear, the Gap Theory is the thing that says Day One begins in verse 3.

 

[37818]

Just to be clear, the Gap Theory is the thing that says Day One begins in verse 3.

Does Gap Theory believe in the six 24 hour days?