I see no difference between Baptists and other churches.

[Ben1445]

Is that all you GOT?

do you have an explanation for every time the word Hell is used? Everlasting torment?
I'll wait.
For as much as you say believe the Scriptures, there is certainly a lot in them you don't believe. Things like Hell that are named and described. Why concern yourself with the Trinity. You don't believe what is clearly described by name. Why would you expect to believe what God reveals about Himself that we have to come up with a name for because God only describes Himself and is not teaching doctrines about Himself.

 

[WheresTheTruthInThat]

do you have an explanation for every time the word Hell is used? Everlasting torment?
I'll wait.
For as much as you say believe the Scriptures, there is certainly a lot in them you don't believe. Things like Hell that are named and described. Why concern yourself with the Trinity. You don't believe what is clearly described by name. Why would you expect to believe what God reveals about Himself that we have to come up with a name for because God only describes Himself and is not teaching doctrines about Himself.

Sheol/Hades/Hell means the same- the grave.

Fire was used to denote DESTRUCTION.
Even in the parable.

 

[Ben1445]

Sheol/Hades/Hell means the same- the grave.

Fire was used to denote DESTRUCTION.
Even in the parable.

torment?
where does it say that it is a parable?

Also, you didn't answer for the "Word was made flesh" and "the Word was God."

 

[WheresTheTruthInThat]

torment?
where does it say that it is a parable?

Also, you didn't answer for the "Word was made flesh" and "the Word was God."

It is OBVIOUSLY a parable. Want me to go over it step-by-step?
Of course the Word was made flesh.
Word was God the same as Moses was.

The Word DIED. God cannot.

 

[Ben1445]

It is OBVIOUSLY a parable. Want me to go over it step-by-step?

It isn't obvious that it is a parable to me. In what other parable do people have names?

When does the Bible say it is a parable?

Yes, please, step by step.

Of course the Word was made flesh.

And the Word was God.

Word was God the same as Moses was.

That must be an error in your translation.

Ex 7:1 ¶ And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.
god Not God.

And if you want to know what God meant by this, look at what He said.

Ex 4:16 And he shall be thy spokesman unto the people: and he shall be, even he shall be to thee instead of a mouth, and thou shalt be to him instead of God.

John never says that the Word was instead of God. He said He was God.

Instead, John says

1Jo 1:1 ¶ That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;
1Jo 1:2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us
1Jo 1:3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ

AND...

1Jo 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

And so I believe in the Trinity. Because it is in the Scripture.

The Word DIED. God cannot.

Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

Need I explain or is it enough that the Bible says it?

 

[WheresTheTruthInThat]

To whom the parable was applied:

Luke 16:14- The Pharisees, who were lovers of money, heard all this, and they scoffed at him. 15- But he said to them, “You are those who justify yourselves before men, but God knows your hearts; for what is exalted among men is an abomination in the sight of God.

 

[WheresTheTruthInThat]

19- “There was a rich man, who was clothed in purple and fine linen and who feasted sumptuously every day.
20- And at his gate lay a poor man named Laz′arus [meaning "God has Helped"], full of sores,
21- who desired to be fed with what fell from the rich man’s table; moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.

The rich man wasn't named, the poor man had a name with meaning.

 

[Ben1445]

To whom the parable was applied:

Luke 16:14- The Pharisees, who were lovers of money, heard all this, and they scoffed at him. 15- But he said to them, “You are those who justify yourselves before men, but God knows your hearts; for what is exalted among men is an abomination in the sight of God.

Jesus, who is God and knows everything and would not need to make up a story said, “There was…”
I am more inclined to believe that there was than that it never happened and it is a made up story.
Jesus didn’t come to preach and teach fairy tales. And nobody listening challenged His teachings and called them fairy tales.
But you have Moses and the prophets also. If you don’t believe what Jesus is teaching, I don’t think I’ll be able to help you see it.

 

[WheresTheTruthInThat]

22- The poor man died and was carried by the angels to Abraham’s bosom. The rich man also died and was buried;
23- and in Hades, being in torment, he lifted up his eyes, and saw Abraham far off and Laz′arus in his bosom.

Jesus taught there was going to be a resurrection in the FUTURE, NEVER teaching the soul was immortal, contrary to to rest of the Bible.
Jesus was using the Dogma of the Pharisees, which clearly contradicted them- making it obvious to ALL.

 

[WheresTheTruthInThat]

Jesus, who is God and knows everything and would not need to make up a story said, “There was…”
I am more inclined to believe that there was than that it never happened and it is a made up story.
Jesus didn’t come to preach and teach fairy tales. And nobody listening challenged His teachings and called them fairy tales.
But you have Moses and the prophets also. If you don’t believe what Jesus is teaching, I don’t think I’ll be able to help you see it.

 

[WheresTheTruthInThat]

So, no need to bother with the rest of it- since you are locked into Church Dogma.

 

[Ben1445]

22- The poor man died and was carried by the angels to Abraham’s bosom. The rich man also died and was buried;
23- and in Hades, being in torment, he lifted up his eyes, and saw Abraham far off and Laz′arus in his bosom.

Jesus taught there was going to be a resurrection in the FUTURE, NEVER teaching the soul was immortal, contrary to to rest of the Bible.
Jesus was using the Dogma of the Pharisees, which clearly contradicted them- making it obvious to ALL.

2 Corinthians 5:8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

 

[Ben1445]

The Word DIED. God cannot.

Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

 

[WheresTheTruthInThat]

The Ridiculous Church Version...

 

[WheresTheTruthInThat]

2 Corinthians 5:8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

 

[Wesley Briggman]

I see no difference between Baptists and other churches.​

Every Baptist church I am aware of is self-governing. Therefore, they are not affiliated with a denomination. Churches that are members of the Southern Baptist Convention maintain their independence and are self-governing.

 

[WheresTheTruthInThat]

I see no difference between Baptists and other churches.​

Every Baptist church I am aware of is self-governing. Therefore, they are not affiliated with a denomination. Churches that are members of the Southern Baptist Convention maintain their independence and are self-governing.

But they share the basic beliefs...

 

[rockytopva]

But they share the basic beliefs...

The requirements for salvation...

If thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. - Romans 10:9

Not hard! And as far as doctrine Paul says...

1 And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God.
2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified. - 1 Corinthians 2

Nothing Jehovahs Witness here!

 

[Walter]

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The Ridiculous Church Version...

'Let US create man in our own image.'
It’s important to realize that JWs use the words divine and God/god differently than we do. To them, the Father, Jesus, and the angels are all divine, but Christians maintain there is a difference in nature between angels and God (creatures versus Creator) and a sameness of nature between the Father and Jesus (both are God).

Also, JWs use the word god (lowercase “g”) in reference to Jesus, effectively meaning he is godlike but not equal in status and nature to the Father, who alone is referred to as “God” (capital “G”). When we use the word god, we are typically using it in the context of mythology wherein the story refers to deities.

New World Translation. John 1:1 ' . . . the Word was 'a god' is where the JW spin gets amusing.

 

[Wesley Briggman]

But they share the basic beliefs...

I hope so.

But many non-Baptist churches have believes that are contrary to Baptist and with each other. One of the most glaring is the Roman Catholic belief that when an infant is baptized they are "born-again".

Are Catholics Born Again?
"When a Catholic says that he has been “born again,” he refers to the transformation that God’s grace accomplished in him during baptism."

Concerning baptism, Baptist, as far as I know, hold the biblical view:

(Rom 6:3 KJV) Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
(Rom 6:4 KJV) Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.