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The Saving results of the Death of Christ !

Brightfame52

Well-Known Member
The religion of man doesn't believe that the death of Christ alone results in the Eternal Salvation of all for whom Christ died, namely His Sheep Jn 10:11,15 or His Church Eph 5:25, or His People Matt 1:21.

His death for His people produces saving results Jn 12:32-33 23,24

32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. 33 This he said, signifying what death he should die.

23 And Jesus answered them, saying, The hour is come, that the Son of man should be glorified. 24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.
 

Brightfame52

Well-Known Member
The Death of Christ alone saved them he died for, namely the Elect, the Sheep, since by His One Offering they were sanctified unto God once and for all Heb 10:10

10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
 

Aaron

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The religion of man doesn't believe that the death of Christ alone results in the Eternal Salvation of all for whom Christ died, namely His Sheep Jn 10:11,15 or His Church Eph 5:25, or His People Matt 1:21.

His death for His people produces saving results Jn 12:32-33 23,24

32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. 33 This he said, signifying what death he should die.

23 And Jesus answered them, saying, The hour is come, that the Son of man should be glorified. 24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.
More precisely, His death is what atones.
 

Brightfame52

Well-Known Member
The word sanctified here in Heb 10:10 is the word hagiazō and means:

to purify by expiation: free from the guilt of sin


The Death of Christ has freed them He died for from the guilt of sin. It also agrees with Heb 1:3

Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
The word purged is the word katharismos:

a cleansing from the guilt of sins wrought by the expiatory sacrifice of Christ

So cleansing from and freedom from the guilt of sin is automatically a saving result of the death of Christ !
 

Brightfame52

Well-Known Member
A companion verse of Heb 10:10 which confirms the saving result of them Christ died for, namely His Sheep, its Heb 10:14

14 For by one offering[His death] he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

Now who are the them that are sanctified ? Look again at Heb 10:10, and how were they sanctified ? Now these by that same means, Christs death are said to be perfected forever ! This includes their Justification before God, a complete cleansing of all the guilt of their sins. And that for ever !
 

Brightfame52

Well-Known Member
The Blood/Death of Christ not only legally saved[reconciled] all for whom He died, but it also effects experiential salvation or conversion. Heb 9:12-14

12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.

13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:

14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

"How much more shall the blood of Christ purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?"


You see this ? Its the powerful Blood of Christ that converts them He died for unto serving the living God. That means they shall live by the Faith of Christ unto serving the True and Living God.

1 Thess 1:9

For they themselves shew of us what manner of entering in we had unto you, and how ye turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God;

This is a result of the powerful effectual blood of Christ !
 

Brightfame52

Well-Known Member
Christs blood/Death converts them He died for, His Church or Sheep into a kingdom of priests Rev 1:5-6

5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
 

Brightfame52

Well-Known Member
See as a result of His Blood shed and consequently it washes those He died for from their sins, He makes, produces them into spiritual priests. The word made in Rev 1:6 is the word poieó and means:

to make, do
Usage: (a) I make, manufacture, construct, (b) I do, act, cause.

with the names of the things made, to produce, construct, form, fashion,

to create, to produce: of God, as the author of all things, τί or τινα, Matthew 19:4; Mark 10:6; Luke 11:40; Hebrews 1:2; Acts 4:24; Acts 7:50; Acts 17:24; Revelation 14:7

The death of Christ results in a new creation !
 

Brightfame52

Well-Known Member
Redeemed from the curse of the Law !

Those Christ died for are consequently saved, redeemed from the curse of the Law. Gal 3:13

13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

Now it tells us specifically how these believers were redeemed from the curse of the Law. Succinctly stated "being made a curse for us:" This refers to His death, its the same as when he wrote to the Church at Corinthians these words "For he hath made him to be sin for us"

So anyone for whom Christ died, has been redeemed from the curse of the Law.

So when Jesus shall say to these Matt 25:41

Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

Its absolutely impossible any of these on left hand, can be anyone Christ was made sin or a curse for ! 2
 

Silverhair

Well-Known Member
BF you make the claim that the ""Atonement" saves.

The bible does not agree with you.

G2643
- Original: καταλλαγή
- Transliteration: Katallage
- Phonetic: kat-al-lag-ay’
- Definition:
1. exchange
a. of the business of money changers, exchanging equivalent values
2. adjustment of a difference, reconciliation, restoration to favour
a. in the NT of the restoration of the favour of God to sinners that repent and put their trust in the expiatory death of christ
- Origin: from G2644
- TDNT entry: 05:18,4
- Part(s) of speech: Noun Feminine
- Strong’s: From G2644; exchange (figuratively adjustment) that is restoration to (the divine) favor: - atonement reconciliation (-ing).


katallage.
The meaning is first “exchange,” then “reconciliation.” Used only by Paul, in the NT it denotes a divine dispensation. Paul’s word and work are the word and ministry of katallage (2Co_5:18-19). They bring God’s reconciling action in Christ before people by an appeal which leads believers to “receive reconciliation” (Rom_5:11). In this sense the reconciliation of the world is a continuing action through the ministry (Rom_11:15). Theological Dictionary of the New Testament [TDNT]



From KJV +TVM

Total KJV Occurrences: 4
• atonement, 1
Rom_5:11
• reconciliation, 2
2Co_5:18; 2Co_5:19
• reconciling, 1
Rom_11:15

Rom_5:11 οὐ And G3756 PRT-N μόνον G3440 ADV δέ Not Only So G1161 CONJ ἀλλὰ But G235 CONJ καὶ Also G2532 CONJ καυχώμενοι Boasting G2744 V-PNP-NPM ἐν In G1722 PREP τῷ G3588 T-DSM θεῷ God G2316 N-DSM διὰ Through G1223 PREP τοῦ Our G3588 T-GSM κυρίου G2962 N-GSM ἡμῶν Lord G2257 P-1GP Ἰησοῦ Jesus G2424 N-GSM Χριστοῦ Christ, G5547 N-GSM δι' Through G1223 PREP οὗ Whom G3739 R-GSM νῦν Now G3568 ADV τὴν The G3588 T-ASF καταλλαγὴν Reconciliation G2643 N-ASF ἐλάβομεν We Received. G2983 V-2AAI-1P

Rom 5:11 And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.

xxx

Rom_11:15 εἰ If G1487 COND γὰρ For G1063 CONJ ἡ G3588 T-NSF ἀποβολὴ Casting Away G580 N-NSF αὐτῶν Their G846 P-GPM καταλλαγὴ Be The Reconciliation G2643 N-NSF κόσμου Of The World, G2889 N-GSM τίς What G5101 I-NSF ἡ The G3588 T-NSF πρόσληψις Reception G4356 N-NSF εἰ G1487 COND μὴ Except G3361 PRT-N ζωὴ Life G2222 N-NSF ἐκ From Among The G1537 PREP νεκρῶν Dead? G3498 A-GPM

Rom 11:15 For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?

xxx

2Co_5:18 τὰ G3588 T-NPN δὲ G1161 CONJ πάντα And All Things Are G3956 A-NPN ἐκ Of G1537 PREP τοῦ G3588 T-GSM θεοῦ God, G2316 N-GSM τοῦ Who G3588 T-GSM καταλλάξαντος Reconciled G2644 V-AAP-GSM ἡμᾶς Us G2248 P-1AP ἑαυτῷ To Himself G1438 F-3DSM διὰ By G1223 PREP Ἰησοῦ Jesus G2424 N-GSM Χριστοῦ Christ, G5547 N-GSM καὶ And G2532 CONJ δόντος Gave G1325 V-2AAP-GSM ἡμῖν To Us G2254 P-1DP τὴν The G3588 T-ASF διακονίαν Service G1248 N-ASF τῆς G3588 T-GSF καταλλαγῆς Of Reconciliation : G2643 N-GSF

2Co 5:18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;

xxx

2Co_5:19 ὡς How G5613 ADV ὅτι That G3754 CONJ θεὸς God G2316 N-NSM ἦν Was G2258 V-IXI-3S ἐν In G1722 PREP Χριστῷ Christ The G5547 N-DSM κόσμον World G2889 N-ASM καταλλάσσων Reconciling G2644 V-PAP-NSM ἑαυτῷ To Himself, G1438 F-3DSM μὴ Not G3361 PRT-N λογιζόμενος Reckoning G3049 V-PNP-NSM αὐτοῖς To Them G846 P-DPM τὰ G3588 T-APN παραπτώματα G3900 N-APN αὐτῶν Their Offences, G846 P-GPM καὶ And G2532 CONJ θέμενος Having Put G5087 V-2AMP-NSM ἐν In G1722 PREP ἡμῖν Us G2254 P-1DP τὸν The G3588 T-ASM λόγον Word G3056 N-ASM τῆς G3588 T-GSF καταλλαγῆς Of Reconciliation. G2643 N-GSF

2Co 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
 

Silverhair

Well-Known Member
BF you make the claim that the ""Atonement" saves.

The bible does not agree with you.

G2643
- Original: καταλλαγή
- Transliteration: Katallage
- Phonetic: kat-al-lag-ay’
- Definition:
1. exchange
a. of the business of money changers, exchanging equivalent values
2. adjustment of a difference, reconciliation, restoration to favour
a. in the NT of the restoration of the favour of God to sinners that repent and put their trust in the expiatory death of christ
- Origin: from G2644
- TDNT entry: 05:18,4
- Part(s) of speech: Noun Feminine
- Strong’s: From G2644; exchange (figuratively adjustment) that is restoration to (the divine) favor: - atonement reconciliation (-ing).


katallage.
The meaning is first “exchange,” then “reconciliation.” Used only by Paul, in the NT it denotes a divine dispensation. Paul’s word and work are the word and ministry of katallage (2Co_5:18-19). They bring God’s reconciling action in Christ before people by an appeal which leads believers to “receive reconciliation” (Rom_5:11). In this sense the reconciliation of the world is a continuing action through the ministry (Rom_11:15). Theological Dictionary of the New Testament [TDNT]



From KJV +TVM

Total KJV Occurrences: 4
• atonement, 1
Rom_5:11
• reconciliation, 2
2Co_5:18; 2Co_5:19
• reconciling, 1
Rom_11:15

Rom_5:11 οὐ And G3756 PRT-N μόνον G3440 ADV δέ Not Only So G1161 CONJ ἀλλὰ But G235 CONJ καὶ Also G2532 CONJ καυχώμενοι Boasting G2744 V-PNP-NPM ἐν In G1722 PREP τῷ G3588 T-DSM θεῷ God G2316 N-DSM διὰ Through G1223 PREP τοῦ Our G3588 T-GSM κυρίου G2962 N-GSM ἡμῶν Lord G2257 P-1GP Ἰησοῦ Jesus G2424 N-GSM Χριστοῦ Christ, G5547 N-GSM δι' Through G1223 PREP οὗ Whom G3739 R-GSM νῦν Now G3568 ADV τὴν The G3588 T-ASF καταλλαγὴν Reconciliation G2643 N-ASF ἐλάβομεν We Received. G2983 V-2AAI-1P

Rom 5:11 And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.

xxx

Rom_11:15 εἰ If G1487 COND γὰρ For G1063 CONJ ἡ G3588 T-NSF ἀποβολὴ Casting Away G580 N-NSF αὐτῶν Their G846 P-GPM καταλλαγὴ Be The Reconciliation G2643 N-NSF κόσμου Of The World, G2889 N-GSM τίς What G5101 I-NSF ἡ The G3588 T-NSF πρόσληψις Reception G4356 N-NSF εἰ G1487 COND μὴ Except G3361 PRT-N ζωὴ Life G2222 N-NSF ἐκ From Among The G1537 PREP νεκρῶν Dead? G3498 A-GPM

Rom 11:15 For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?

xxx

2Co_5:18 τὰ G3588 T-NPN δὲ G1161 CONJ πάντα And All Things Are G3956 A-NPN ἐκ Of G1537 PREP τοῦ G3588 T-GSM θεοῦ God, G2316 N-GSM τοῦ Who G3588 T-GSM καταλλάξαντος Reconciled G2644 V-AAP-GSM ἡμᾶς Us G2248 P-1AP ἑαυτῷ To Himself G1438 F-3DSM διὰ By G1223 PREP Ἰησοῦ Jesus G2424 N-GSM Χριστοῦ Christ, G5547 N-GSM καὶ And G2532 CONJ δόντος Gave G1325 V-2AAP-GSM ἡμῖν To Us G2254 P-1DP τὴν The G3588 T-ASF διακονίαν Service G1248 N-ASF τῆς G3588 T-GSF καταλλαγῆς Of Reconciliation : G2643 N-GSF

2Co 5:18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;

xxx

2Co_5:19 ὡς How G5613 ADV ὅτι That G3754 CONJ θεὸς God G2316 N-NSM ἦν Was G2258 V-IXI-3S ἐν In G1722 PREP Χριστῷ Christ The G5547 N-DSM κόσμον World G2889 N-ASM καταλλάσσων Reconciling G2644 V-PAP-NSM ἑαυτῷ To Himself, G1438 F-3DSM μὴ Not G3361 PRT-N λογιζόμενος Reckoning G3049 V-PNP-NSM αὐτοῖς To Them G846 P-DPM τὰ G3588 T-APN παραπτώματα G3900 N-APN αὐτῶν Their Offences, G846 P-GPM καὶ And G2532 CONJ θέμενος Having Put G5087 V-2AMP-NSM ἐν In G1722 PREP ἡμῖν Us G2254 P-1DP τὸν The G3588 T-ASM λόγον Word G3056 N-ASM τῆς G3588 T-GSF καταλλαγῆς Of Reconciliation. G2643 N-GSF

2Co 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
 

Silverhair

Well-Known Member
The word sanctified here in Heb 10:10 is the word hagiazō and means:

to purify by expiation: free from the guilt of sin


The Death of Christ has freed them He died for from the guilt of sin. It also agrees with Heb 1:3

Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
The word purged is the word katharismos:

a cleansing from the guilt of sins wrought by the expiatory sacrifice of Christ

So cleansing from and freedom from the guilt of sin is automatically a saving result of the death of Christ !

Expiation
EXPIA'TION, n. [L. expiatio.] The act of atoning for a crime; the act of making satisfaction for an offense,by which the guilt is done away, and the obligation of the offended person to punish the crime is canceled; atonement; satisfaction.

Again atonement does not save.
 

Silverhair

Well-Known Member
A companion verse of Heb 10:10 which confirms the saving result of them Christ died for, namely His Sheep, its Heb 10:14

14 For by one offering[His death] he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

Now who are the them that are sanctified ? Look again at Heb 10:10, and how were they sanctified ? Now these by that same means, Christs death are said to be perfected forever ! This includes their Justification before God, a complete cleansing of all the guilt of their sins. And that for ever !

Those that freely believe in the risen Christ.

1Co 15:16 For if the dead are not raised, not even Christ has been raised;
1Co 15:17 and if Christ has not been raised, your faith is worthless; you are still in your sins.
 

Silverhair

Well-Known Member
The Blood/Death of Christ not only legally saved[reconciled] all for whom He died, but it also effects experiential salvation or conversion. Heb 9:12-14

12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.

13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:

14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

"How much more shall the blood of Christ purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?"


You see this ? Its the powerful Blood of Christ that converts them He died for unto serving the living God. That means they shall live by the Faith of Christ unto serving the True and Living God.

1 Thess 1:9

For they themselves shew of us what manner of entering in we had unto you, and how ye turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God;

This is a result of the powerful effectual blood of Christ !

Christ Jesus has acted as our

Intercessor

A mediator; one who interposes between parties at variance, with a view to reconcile them; one who pleads in behalf of another.

So that He could

Intercede for sinful man

To mediate; to interpose; to make intercession; to act between parties with a view to reconcile those who differ or contend

To bring about the

Reconciliation between man & God

The act of reconciling parties at variance; renewal of friendship after disagreement or enmity.

In Scripture, the means by which sinners are reconciled and brought into a state of favor with God, after natural estrangement or enmity; the atonement; expiation.

His death on the cross covered the sins of humanity and allows God to save those that will freely trust in the risen Christ Jesus.
 

Silverhair

Well-Known Member
See as a result of His Blood shed and consequently it washes those He died for from their sins, He makes, produces them into spiritual priests. The word made in Rev 1:6 is the word poieó and means:

to make, do
Usage: (a) I make, manufacture, construct, (b) I do, act, cause.

with the names of the things made, to produce, construct, form, fashion,

to create, to produce: of God, as the author of all things, τί or τινα, Matthew 19:4; Mark 10:6; Luke 11:40; Hebrews 1:2; Acts 4:24; Acts 7:50; Acts 17:24; Revelation 14:7

The death of Christ results in a new creation !

If Christ did not rise from the grave we would still be in our sins BF. We would still be lost.
 

Silverhair

Well-Known Member
Redeemed from the curse of the Law !

Those Christ died for are consequently saved, redeemed from the curse of the Law. Gal 3:13

13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

Now it tells us specifically how these believers were redeemed from the curse of the Law. Succinctly stated "being made a curse for us:" This refers to His death, its the same as when he wrote to the Church at Corinthians these words "For he hath made him to be sin for us"

So anyone for whom Christ died, has been redeemed from the curse of the Law.

So when Jesus shall say to these Matt 25:41

Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

Its absolutely impossible any of these on left hand, can be anyone Christ was made sin or a curse for ! 2

Your posts suggest that you are promoting universalism BF.

1Jn 2:2 and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world.

You need to look beyond your calvinist philosophy and trust what the bible has told us.

Christ Died so that the would could be saved through Him

Joh 3:17 "For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him.

Joh_1:12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name,

Rom 5:1 Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,
Rom 5:2 through whom also we have obtained our introduction by faith into this grace in which we stand; and we exult in hope of the glory of God.
 

Brightfame52

Well-Known Member
Expiation
EXPIA'TION, n. [L. expiatio.] The act of atoning for a crime; the act of making satisfaction for an offense,by which the guilt is done away, and the obligation of the offended person to punish the crime is canceled; atonement; satisfaction.

Again atonement does not save.
I know you dont believe Christ death saved anyone.
 

Brightfame52

Well-Known Member
Those that freely believe in the risen Christ.

1Co 15:16 For if the dead are not raised, not even Christ has been raised;
1Co 15:17 and if Christ has not been raised, your faith is worthless; you are still in your sins.
Those for whom Christ died, His death perfected them forever. That includes their justification, forgiveness and regeneration.
 

Brightfame52

Well-Known Member
Christ Jesus has acted as our

Intercessor

A mediator; one who interposes between parties at variance, with a view to reconcile them; one who pleads in behalf of another.

So that He could

Intercede for sinful man

To mediate; to interpose; to make intercession; to act between parties with a view to reconcile those who differ or contend

To bring about the

Reconciliation between man & God

The act of reconciling parties at variance; renewal of friendship after disagreement or enmity.

In Scripture, the means by which sinners are reconciled and brought into a state of favor with God, after natural estrangement or enmity; the atonement; expiation.

His death on the cross covered the sins of humanity and allows God to save those that will freely trust in the risen Christ Jesus.
Christ death provides sanctifying grace to convert the conscience unto God, to serve Him by Faith
 
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