Think that the biblical view of salvation would include a profession of faith is Jesus as Lord and savior, but such a profession would be evidenced by some fruit, such as a changed mindset regarding sin, God, church bible etc, and some type of good works unto others , so not just "faith alone" talk after having been really saved , but a life to some degree reflecting a change
John MacArthur's Lordship Salvation, anyone?
John's big error: The command to "take up your cross" was made to disciples, not lost people (Matt. 6:24). And I don't teach anyone to just say "Save me Jesus" (nor did Hyles, to be fair to him). There must be a full understanding of the Gospel, and a trusting in Christ as Savior.
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John R. Rice and the KJV
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This is straight Lordship Salvation, right out of The Gospel According to Jesus. However, this thread is not about soteriology, so please refrain from going down this road.
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Of course, that makes no sense.
The Romans Road,
Romans 3:10.
KJV, As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
ASV, as it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one;
Romans 3:23.
KJV, For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
ASV, for all have sinned, and fall short of the glory of God;
Romans 5:12.
KJV, Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
ASV, Therefore, as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin; and so death passed unto all men, for that all sinned:
Romans 6:23.
KJV, For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
ASV, For the wages of sin is death; but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Romans 5:8.
KJV, But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
ASV, But God commendeth his own love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
Romans 10:9.
KJV, That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
ASV, because if thou shalt confess with thy mouth Jesus as Lord, and shalt believe in thy heart that God raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved:
Romans 10:13.
KJV, For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
ASV, for, Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
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It is the preaching of the gospel, not Bibles, that is the power of God to save sinners, I am KJV only but I know that God does not send KJVs to the heathen to get them saved, he sends missionary men and families. They typically learn the languages of those to whom they are sent and when they get several converts they start a church. A church can be started by the missionary without a Bible they can read but not without converts. So the first order is converts. One gets converts by preaching the gospel.
The scriptures are not profitable to the unsaved, but for these things.
2 Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
I think often times incredibly simple and logical things get confused in theological rhetoric and nonsense.
4 point Calvinists, Dispensational and free grace theology
I thought "easy believism" was another term to describe free grace theology.