The three things pre-tribbers had to change to support their pre-trib fallacy is
1. The elect. 2. The fig tree. 3. The last trump.
I was fortunate enough to have an online conversation with Joel Rosenberg about this. He said that pre-trib 'experts' KNOW they're wrong but believe pre-trib causes people to convert and that they won't come clean about it but will let the events prove them wrong.
Do you really think that the thousands of highly respected authors would admit a major pre-trib blunder after making millions selling book promoting pre-trib? For them to come clean on the issue throws thousands of well respected authors under the bus!
How do pre-tribbers overcome Jesus' declaration that the gathering occurs AFETR tribulation?
They claim that Mathew 24 is meant for Jews and NOT the Church. They have to do this because in Mathew 24 Jesus clearly says the gathering occurs AFTER the tribulation! His words alone DEBUNK pre-trib. They use the word 'elect' and the 'fig tree' to support pre-trib claiming Jews are the elect and the fig tree always indicates Israel.
The word ELECT.
Not once in the New Testament does the word elect/chosen imply Jews. In Mathew 24 it implies BELIEVERS whether Jew or Gentile. In every instance in the NT 'elect' refers either to BELIEVERS, Jesus, or angels. This is Strong's definition of elect.
chosen by God,
to obtain salvation through Christ
Christians are called "chosen or elect" of God
the Messiah is called "elect", as appointed by God to the most exalted office conceivable
choice, select, i.e. the best of its kind or class, excellence preeminent: applied to certain individual Christians.
The Fig Tree
Pre-tribbers tell us, "the fig tree represents Israel - the 1948 Jewish generation."
NOTHING in the chapter indicates it's meant for Jews OR that the fig tree represents Israel. Those ideas are clearly debunked.
Mathew 24 is about the parousia and the events leading up to the consummation of the age.
The Parousia is mentioned in verses 3, 27, 27, and 39. It takes one very misled person to believe this chapter is for only for Jews OR that the olive tree represents Israel.
The Disciples asked, "What is the sign of thy\~parousia\~and the consummation of the age."
PAROUSIA presence
the coming, arrival, advent
the future visible return from heaven of Jesus, to raise the dead, hold the last judgment, and set up formally and gloriously the kingdom of God
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It has absolutely nothing to do with the Jews. How can this be 1948? Almost three generations have passed since then! The Jews don't even believe in Jesus! The word ELECT indicates CHRISTIANS! Not once in the NT does the word elect or chosen imply Jews.
The generation Jesus is referring to is the one that SEES all the things pass that he mentioned between verses 3 and 31. He uses a fig tree to illustrate. When the branch is tender and puts forth leaves - Summer is near -LIKEWISE - when you see events pass Jesus was talking about previously - HIS RETRUN - PAROUSIA IS NEAR!
It's not that difficult to figure out. The 1948 Jewish generation is long gone. (40-44 years)
Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
Nothing implies Israel. It has to be fabricated inti the mix.
Not one word in Mt. 24 suggest this message is directed to or about the Jewish nation. NOTHING!
The Last Trumpet
This is where the real fabricated nonsense of pre-trib comes in. Pre-tribbers tell us...
\ldblquote The Last Trump\rdblquote Is A Direct Reference to the Last Trumpet of the Feast of Trumpets."
The reason for turning the 'last trump' into a Jewish Trumpet - a religion that rejects Jesus - is because the 7th trumpet clearly debunks pre-trib.
What clearly debunks pre-trib is Revelation 8:6 "Now the seven angels who had the seven trumpets prepared to blow them."
So according to Pre-trib - it's not going to be an angel of the Lord that sounds the last trump - it's a Jewish trumpet which means - THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ANGEL THAT DOESN'T SOUND!
Strong's says, "the trumpet after which no other will sound, 1 Corinthians 15:52,"
last in time or in place
last in a series of places
last in a temporal succession
The LAST TRUMP is the trumpet after which no other will sound, 1 Corinthians 15:52. THERE'S NO REASON AT ALL TO TAKE THIS OUT OF CONTEXT and pervert the hell out of it. You expect me to believe that the dead will rise and believers changed when a Jewish Trumpet is sounded when there's still ONE angel remaining to sound?
The nonsense in all this is exposed by Revelation 8:6
"Now the seven angels who had the seven trumpets prepared to blow them."
It's disappointing and disturbing to see so many people believing in pre-trib. The teaching is so contradictory and fabricated that I believe it is an abomination. People believe it because there are so many 'prophecy experts' pushing this perverted teaching. In Mathew 24 Jesus said the gathering/rapture occurs AFTER the tribulation. How have pre-tribbers overcome this? By adding another return, another rapture, another trumpet, etc.
I can see why YOU need the Tribulation Period. I don't need it.