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Is there a standard Systematic Theology for IBF churches then?
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In the first place, your title is wrong. Churches don't use systematic theologies usually. Perhaps you mean schools. In that case you would have to mean seminaries, since colleges don't usually have systematic theology courses, though I have heard of it. If a Bible college does have a course in it, they would probably use Introductory Lectures in Systematic Theology, by Henry Theissen--kind of old, but still good.
As for seminaries, the go to Baptist volume nowadays is Christian Theology, 3rd ed., by Millard Erickson. I took courses from the 2nd ed. years ago in seminary, and now teach Eschatology from the 3rd ed. This is an excellent textbook on the subject.
I really don't know who would use MacArthur's--didn't even know he had written one. But MacArthur is so strongly Calvinist, I doubt that a non-Calvinist school would use his volume.
Just looked at it on Amazon. The MacArthur volume is considerably more expensive than Erickson. That's a consideration for a prof. Seminary students are not rolling in dough.
As for seminaries, the go to Baptist volume nowadays is Christian Theology, 3rd ed., by Millard Erickson. I took courses from the 2nd ed. years ago in seminary, and now teach Eschatology from the 3rd ed. This is an excellent textbook on the subject.
I really don't know who would use MacArthur's--didn't even know he had written one. But MacArthur is so strongly Calvinist, I doubt that a non-Calvinist school would use his volume.
Just looked at it on Amazon. The MacArthur volume is considerably more expensive than Erickson. That's a consideration for a prof. Seminary students are not rolling in dough.
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No, there is not a "standard" Systematic Theology text for Independent Baptists - we tend to be quite independent.
But there are many different Baptist Systematic Theology texts.
Typically here at the BB, people want a book that supports what they already believe (lol).
What flavor are you looking for?
Rob
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Ben1445
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I had four semesters of systematic theology. There were several different textbooks because someone might be very good in one subject and have some strange ideas elsewhere. As an example, I have Landmark outlines for 10 major doctrines. I have their “Ecclesiology” outlines but I won’t use them and would only refer to them to find out generally what someone believes if I found myself needing to be a bit more well versed in a topic I expect to have conversation on.
I don’t agree with every point they ever make but they are not far off on everything else. I just don’t value their opinions on what a church is.
I have several books that way. They are most helpful when people have questions and you can get right to the section you want to study up on.
I don’t agree with every point they ever make but they are not far off on everything else. I just don’t value their opinions on what a church is.
I have several books that way. They are most helpful when people have questions and you can get right to the section you want to study up on.
The 2 standard ones in school were Dr Grudem and Dr Erickson
Some have stated before they use Ah Strong, but that text is pretty old
My first ST book was by Dr Berkhof, and was very good, and just ignored his views on infant baptism and eschatology
Just was curious if the seminaries for IBF actually had and used a Standard text for theology
Three of us answered this already in a previous thread of yours!
Me: Bancroft
TCassidy: Strong
Squire Robertsson: McCune
Me: Bancroft
TCassidy: Strong
Squire Robertsson: McCune
Alan Dale Gross
Active Member
The idea for all Baptists at College or in our churches was to be
"WORTH YOUR WEIGHT IN BIBLE DOCTRINE."
We had classes in Baptist Bible College on T.P. Simmons'
A SYSTEMATIC STUDY OF BIBLE DOCTRINE- T.P. Simmons.pdfDownload
and A. H. Strong – Systematic Theology.pdfDownload
and I love them both for my own study and devotional reading, too.
with references often made in school and the churches to:
C.D.Cole_Vol 1 Definitions of Doctrine.pdfDownload
C.D.Cole_Vol 2 Definitions of Doctrine.pdfDownload
C.D.Cole_Vol 3 Definitions of Doctrine.pdfDownload
&
Systematic Theology – C Hodge Vol 1.pdfDownload
Systematic Theology – C Hodge Vol 2.pdfDownload
Systematic Theology – C Hodge Vol 3.pdfDownload
&
Systematic Theology by Louis Berkhof.pdfDownload
I personally can't get enough of
John Gill-Body of Doctrinal Divinity 7Volumes.pdfDownload
John Gill-Body of Practical Divinity.pdfDownload
Everyone I have been associated within College and churches are
King James Version Preferred holding to other versions which maintain the Twin Doctrines of Inspiration and Preservation,
New Testament local ekklesia church body assemblies only,
Doctrines of Grace down the line as to How God Saves souls,
Authority in baptism-Baptist-Doctrine-like Succession church Perpetuity = Landmark before the 'Landmark' name was cool, etc.
(I have never in 45 years heard anyone mention
Calvin Institutes of Christian Religion.pdfDownload
either in school or churches and had only heard the word Calvin 6 or 7 times, tops, in that 45 years, until I came here to the Baptist Board where that name is thrown out there 6 or 7 times a day as you know, for some disparaging reason or another.)
The list of Systematic Theologies above comes from page 6 of 8 in
Berea Baptist Theological Resources
which has a fine collection of various good material in those 8 pages of Resources,and also in its tabs
Proclaiming Christ and His Truths
&Berea Baptist Articles
, etc., at:Berea Baptist Voice
Berea Baptist Theological Resources
Search the scriptures daily.. Bibles King-James-Bible-KJV-Bible-PDF.pdfDownload King_James_Textus_Receptus_Download TRStephens1550Download Confessions we adopt 1st-london-1644-ed.pdfDownload 1st-Lo…
bereabaptistvoice.org
VERY GOOD, BROTHER P37818. NAILED IT.
I've never heard anyone try to argue against the point that The Bible gives IBFs the Home Court Advantage!
It would be hard to beat that list of .pdfs above and they would be used by Baptists who are Baptists like those at
Berea Baptist Voice (or like essentially all Baptists were 150-200 years back).
Armchair Apologist
Member
Are you kidding? John MacArthur is a "cuss word" in IFB Circles!
Their "systematic theology" book is the King James Bible! Ask them and they will be happy to tell you.....most passionately too!
Craigbythesea
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Apparently, you have not read the book (Outlines of Theology). For starters, on pages 245-246 he addresses the question, “What is the present attitude of Geological science in relation to the Mosaic Record of creation?” That attitude has changed substantially since 1879!
Note:
A. A. Hodge was the son of Charles Hodge, the author of Systematic Theology. A. A. Hodge’s Outlines of Theology is not a systematic theology and is of much more use to the reader than the systematic theology written by his father.
DaveXR650
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Charles Ryrie had a systematic theology book that the kids at Cedarville in Ohio used to use for the beginning theology course. I used to be a fundy and I can say it looked pretty good. The problem is, most IFB used to at least, proudly claim they used no systematic theology at all. So we used to say our theology was: "We don't smoke and we don't chew. And we don't do out with girls that do".
But in all seriousness, they did just fine, and it could be argued that they did better than a lot of the more "theologically astute" groups around them in dealing with the modern age. They also had the best pot luck dinners, ever.
But in all seriousness, they did just fine, and it could be argued that they did better than a lot of the more "theologically astute" groups around them in dealing with the modern age. They also had the best pot luck dinners, ever.
Conservative and Evangelical still support Genesis account
Armchair Apologist
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I have "Christian Theology - Systematic and Biblical" (Emery H. Bancroft) in my library. It has a 1976 copyright from "Baptist Bible College" of which I am assuming to mean "Springfield Baptist Bible College" so this seems to be an official Systematic Theology textbook of a BBFI college. Seems like a good resource and I have used citations from it in several of my seminary papers.
Armchair Apologist
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This Bible College and Seminary closed a couple of years ago. My pastor got his Dmin from here.