If you weren't Baptist...

[Marooncat79]

And so do Free-will Baptists, although they wouldn't term it like that. They'd say we can forfeit our salvation,or willingly give it up.

They also believe once you lose it, you can never be saved again

 

[Charlie24]

They deny Sola Scriptura, Sola Fide,

Not all of the Pentecostals deny it.

Swaggart is or was, a strong upholder of the KJV and he is scripture only.

Some claim he's not but I have watched his show "A study in the Word" for years and have not seen what some claim.

 

[Charlie24]

They also believe once you lose it, you can never be saved again

That comes from Heb. 10:26-31, and a couple of other places I would have to look up being my memory is not what it should be.

 

[Marooncat79]

Hebrews 6:1-4

 

[Marooncat79]

They dent sola scriptura by claiming you have to speak in tongues.

 

[Charlie24]

That comes from Heb. 10:26-31, and a couple of other places I would have to look up being my memory is not what it should be.

Another is Heb. 6:4-9 which is equal to the OT "the righteous turning from his righteousness."

It's the denial of faith in Christ that was once present.

 

[Charlie24]

Another is Heb. 6:4-9 which is equal to the OT "the righteous turning from his righteousness."

It's the denial of faith in Christ that was once present.

That person can't be renewed to repentance, they have committed the unforgivable sin, blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.

The Holy Spirit entered into them by faith and the faith is no longer existing, forcing the Holy Spirit to leave, putting Him and Christ to open shame.

 

[Marooncat79]

Blasphemy of the HS is actually attributing the works of God to satan

 

[Charlie24]

That person can't be renewed to repentance, they have committed the unforgivable sin, blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.

The Holy Spirit entered into them by faith and the faith is no longer existing, forcing the Holy Spirit to leave, putting Him and Christ to open shame.

The warning for losing our faith and our salvation is given in Heb. 3:14

"For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;"

Blasphemy of the HS is actually attributing the works of God to satan

It's placing the Holy Spirit in an embarrassing/insulted situation.

 

[Ben1445]

I once told a friend of mine I would consider to be Church of Christ - UNTIL I learned of all their doctrine!

Of Latter Day Saints?

 

[easternstar]

I always thought that salvation was a new birth. Since no matter how I behave, I will always be the son of my earthly father, it seems like the same principle holds true for remaining a son of my Heavenly Father.

What confuses me is how there are cults, disgraced pastors, and abusive churches that teach the salvation of new birth via “confess Jesus as Lord and believe God raised Him from the dead” — but are seen to be diabolical, deceptive disasters.

So in my self-examination spiritually, I struggle to assure myself that my sincere response to the gospel as a teenager got the salvation job done, even though I spent decades later in sinful backsliding and hedonistic fleshly indulgence.

Rather than worrying that I might have lost my salvation, I seek confidence that my new birth as a teenager was genuine. It certainly seemed sincere for the first few years at least. But the headline of salvation gradually slipped into being just a footnote. This causes great shame and dismay in my soul.

Even my rather successful marriage of 21 years to a virtuous, godly Christian woman is not enough to dispel my doubts sufficiently, though it does help a bit. During our marriage, I never worried about my spiritual state, but when she died, I suddenly, in the midst of bleak grieving, became a million times more introspective and cynical about my salvation.

I don’t want to be someone who, on judgment day, Jesus declares, “I never knew you. Depart from me, you worker of iniquity.”

From what I know of you, from your posts, I think you are safe.

 

[easternstar]

I've found that the Pentecostals hold almost identical to the same theology as Baptists.

Of course that varies across the board, but the ones I know believe the same.

It's there focus on the gifts that I see as extreme.

Some are more extreme than others, so less extreme Pentecostals is probably my choice if I had to choose among the established denominations.

I might be with you on that -- less extreme Pentecostals, or maybe some form of Wesleyanism, although I'd have a problem with infant baptism.

 

[Salty]

Christ Alone iS not enough. It also takes baptism

Sola Fide is not enough. It also takes baprism

Are you basing that on Acts 2:38?

 

[Silverhair]

I always thought that salvation was a new birth. Since no matter how I behave, I will always be the son of my earthly father, it seems like the same principle holds true for remaining a son of my Heavenly Father.

What confuses me is how there are cults, disgraced pastors, and abusive churches that teach the salvation of new birth via “confess Jesus as Lord and believe God raised Him from the dead” — but are seen to be diabolical, deceptive disasters.

So in my self-examination spiritually, I struggle to assure myself that my sincere response to the gospel as a teenager got the salvation job done, even though I spent decades later in sinful backsliding and hedonistic fleshly indulgence.

Rather than worrying that I might have lost my salvation, I seek confidence that my new birth as a teenager was genuine. It certainly seemed sincere for the first few years at least. But the headline of salvation gradually slipped into being just a footnote. This causes great shame and dismay in my soul.

Even my rather successful marriage of 21 years to a virtuous, godly Christian woman is not enough to dispel my doubts sufficiently, though it does help a bit. During our marriage, I never worried about my spiritual state, but when she died, I suddenly, in the midst of bleak grieving, became a million times more introspective and cynical about my salvation.

I don’t want to be someone who, on judgment day, Jesus declares, “I never knew you. Depart from me, you worker of iniquity.”

The fact that you were concerned about your salvation is actually proof that you are saved. You still believe. The ones that should be concerned because of their wanton ways are not concerned in the least.

When someone has drifted so far away from God that it no longer crosses their mind then those are the ones that have abandoned their faith and are lost. No one can snatch us out of God's hand but He will not force us to stay there.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

what denomination do you think you'd be a part of? (posting here so our non-Baptist friends can participate)

None

 

[Marooncat79]

Are you basing that on Acts 2:38?

Im basing it on the fact that they say “you must be baptized” which denies Sola Christus and Sola Fide or faith alone