The sheep and the goats?

[David Lamb]

David, have you ever read Matthew's gospel? I am not trying to insult you but have you ever considered what it says. If you believe the words of the gospel of Matthew the question would be answered. Consider what the apostle Paul wrote to the Galatians who were having problems with the law.

4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
For what purpose?
5 To redeem them that were under the law, (why?) that we might receive the adoption of sons.

Joshua 9:9
And they said unto him, From a very far country thy servants are come because of the name of the Lord thy God: for we have heard the fame of him, and all that he did in Egypt, (Reminds me of the kings in Luke 2 who came from the east to Bethlehem to worship him)

Isaiah 66:19
And I will set a sign among them, and I will send those that escape of them unto the nations, to Tarshish, Pul, and Lud, that draw the bow, to Tubal, and Javan, to the isles afar off, that have not heard my fame, neither have seen my glory; and they shall declare my glory among the Gentiles.

Jesus was glorified when he rose from the dead.

So, one of the 4 major reasons for the nation and people of Israel is for God to reveal his glory and power and person to the nations and to get fame through them as he worked out his redemption through them. The signs and miracles and prophesy through Israel in the OT made him well known among the nations and set him above all other gods that men worship.

So, I am going to ask our Lord Jesus to answer a gentile and at the same time answer your question.

Mt 15:22 And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.

24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
26 But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.

Mt 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Here is Jesus ministering in the flesh to a certain nation, his own, under the economy of the law of Moses and preaching what he calls the gospel of the kingdom and directing his preachers to go only to those of the nation Israel and to preach the same gospel of kingdom. Do you believe the gospel they preached to Israel can get you saved today?

I hope you will answer this question.

Yes, I have read Matthew's gospel. The passage about the Canaanite woman continues:

“Then Jesus answered and said to her, “O woman, great [is] your faith! Let it be to you as you desire.” And her daughter was healed from that very hour.” (Mt 15:28 NKJV)

Similarly He healed the Roman centurion's servant, and said about him:

“When Jesus heard [it], He marveled, and said to those who followed, “Assuredly, I say to you, I have not found such great faith, not even in Israel!” (Mt 8:10 NKJV)

I agree that Matthew aimed his gospel at a Jewish readership, yet it is part of God's word for all, Jew and Gentile alike.

 

[JD731]

Yes, I have read Matthew's gospel. The passage about the Canaanite woman continues:

“Then Jesus answered and said to her, “O woman, great [is] your faith! Let it be to you as you desire.” And her daughter was healed from that very hour.” (Mt 15:28 NKJV)

Similarly He healed the Roman centurion's servant, and said about him:

“When Jesus heard [it], He marveled, and said to those who followed, “Assuredly, I say to you, I have not found such great faith, not even in Israel!” (Mt 8:10 NKJV)

I agree that Matthew aimed his gospel at a Jewish readership, yet it is part of God's word for all, Jew and Gentile alike.

Thanks David for your answer. The reason I did not quote all the conversation between Jesus and the gentile woman is because I anticipated your response would be exactly as it is. You would quote these verses as if they moderated or modified, altered, or otherwise changed the directive of the one who sent him. How did an act of grace and mercy from one whose character included grace and mercy overrule and change the divine directive.

Mt 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

What Jesus did surely did not effect the directive of the Father because Jesus was in the process of going to the lost sheep of the house of Israel when these deeds occurred.

20 For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel.

I am wondering now out loud if any wondering took place in the crowd because of these things he did. This is called prep work for when the gentiles were included in the equation of salvation in his person. No doubt he received fame throughout the region because of these acts of grace..
So Jesus marvelled at her faith and she marvelled at his work. BTW, as a side note, faith has degrees. This was great faith. The Centurion had greatest faith exceeding any among the Israelites.

See this for the time gentiles will be included and by what basis.

The historical context is here:
Then Jesus six days before the passover came to Bethany, where Lazarus was, which had been dead, whom he raised from the dead.
The remainder of the gospel of John is in the context of this last week.

Jn 1220 And there were certain Greeks among them that came up to worship at the feast:
21 The same came therefore to Philip, which was of Bethsaida of Galilee, and desired him, saying, Sir, we would see Jesus.
22 Philip cometh and telleth Andrew: and again Andrew and Philip tell Jesus.
23 And Jesus answered them, saying, The hour is come, that the Son of man should be glorified.
24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.


Timing is everything with God. These Greeks would not be justified by believing Jesus is the Christ, the son of God and his kingdom is at hand as was required of the Jews during the ministry of Jesus, but they will be saved by believing the gospel of the grace of God because he has died for them, was buried, and was raised again from the dead. This is when he was glorified.

The death of Jesus Christ for sin and his resurrection to propitiate God on behalf of all men of any age who will believe what he has revealed to them. But God the Father is the person of the Godhead who justifies.

Rom 8:33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

We know from history that God began justifying gentiles in Acts 10 with the Italian Cornelius in 40 AD when God poured out his Spirit on gentiles according to his own explanation of these events in Acts 11 when he through Peter informed the other apostles that this is what took place. He gave his Spirit , who is salvation, on the lone condition of them believing that Jesus willingly died for them and was buried and rose again from the dead. This is true from this point on throughout this age for all men everywhere.

In the next age God the Father will save those of Israel and gentiles who will believe in Jesus and also believe the the gospel of the kingdom of heaven is at hand. Those who will believe this will die instead of identifying with Satan through his required mark in their bodies.

God is in charge of who he will save and when he will save them and under what conditions.

I remind you of what Jesus said about that time in his Olivet Discourse.

14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world (kosmos) for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand)

May Jesus Christ be high and lifted up and praised by this post. Amen!

 

[Van]

In Matthew 25: 31-46 Jesus teaches about the end of the age of grace. He will begin is Millennial reign, sitting on His thrown.

Some have read this passage and conclude, mistakenly in my opinion, that Christ's division will be based on works.

But I believe "giving to Christ what He needed" refers to giving Christ, by those physically living at that time, trust, love and commitment.

In verse 40 we see that the sheep are "brothers" [siblings] of Christ, thus those having been born anew as children of God.

And on the other left side, the goats are described as not giving Christ what He needed. Perhaps they had never heard the gospel because it was not presented or because like Soil #1, they had lost their ability to understand the spiritual milk of the gospel. And of course, the many who had sought the narrow door. but never finding it, would have failed to fully embrace the gospel, like Soil #2 or #3 of Matthew 13. Their love for and commitment to Christ was not sufficient, such that Christ would or had become the overriding priority of their lives.

The key take away here, as in Matthew 7:21-23 is to do the "will" of the Father, which John presents with crystal clarity:

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“For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in [into] Him will have eternal life, and I Myself will raise him up on the last day.” [John 6:40 NASB]​

 

[Van]

The Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, “ALL THE NATIONS WILL BE BLESSED IN YOU.” [Galatians 3:8]

Here we see "Nations" used to refer to both Jews and Gentiles, and that justification comes through individual faith, not a national culture. Thus Matthew 25:32 refers to separating individual sheep, Jew or Gentile, from individual goats, Jew or Gentile.

The Greek word translated usually as Gentiles or Nations refers multitudes of people or peoples. In Matthew 25:32, all the nations would be better translated as "all the peoples" because the individuals that are siblings of Christ will be separated to the right like sheep, and those not belonging to Christ we go to the left like goats.

 

[David Lamb]

Thanks David for your answer. The reason I did not quote all the conversation between Jesus and the gentile woman is because I anticipated your response would be exactly as it is. You would quote these verses as if they moderated or modified, altered, or otherwise changed the directive of the one who sent him. How did an act of grace and mercy from one whose character included grace and mercy overrule and change the divine directive.

I am embarrassed by the time and effort you must put into replying in such detail - thank you! I would say that when we look at what the bible as a whole says about Jesus coming from heaven to earth, we find that it was not only to the Jews. For example, we have these words of aged Simeon, as he held the infant Jesus:

“For my eyes have seen Your salvation Which You have prepared before the face of all peoples, A light to bring revelation to the Gentiles, And the glory of Your people Israel.”” (Lu 2:30-32 NKJV)

If it was as you say, and He was sent only to the Jews, He wouldn't have healed, spoken to, or had any dealings with Samaritans, Romans and other Gentiles, yet He did.

Mt 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

What Jesus did surely did not effect the directive of the Father because Jesus was in the process of going to the lost sheep of the house of Israel when these deeds occurred.

20 For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel.

I am wondering now out loud if any wondering took place in the crowd because of these things he did. This is called prep work for when the gentiles were included in the equation of salvation in his person. No doubt he received fame throughout the region because of these acts of grace..
So Jesus marvelled at her faith and she marvelled at his work. BTW, as a side note, faith has degrees. This was great faith. The Centurion had greatest faith exceeding any among the Israelites.

See this for the time gentiles will be included and by what basis.

The historical context is here:
Then Jesus six days before the passover came to Bethany, where Lazarus was, which had been dead, whom he raised from the dead.
The remainder of the gospel of John is in the context of this last week.

Jn 1220 And there were certain Greeks among them that came up to worship at the feast:
21 The same came therefore to Philip, which was of Bethsaida of Galilee, and desired him, saying, Sir, we would see Jesus.
22 Philip cometh and telleth Andrew: and again Andrew and Philip tell Jesus.
23 And Jesus answered them, saying, The hour is come, that the Son of man should be glorified.
24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.


Timing is everything with God. These Greeks would not be justified by believing Jesus is the Christ, the son of God and his kingdom is at hand as was required of the Jews during the ministry of Jesus, but they will be saved by believing the gospel of the grace of God because he has died for them, was buried, and was raised again from the dead. This is when he was glorified.

The death of Jesus Christ for sin and his resurrection to propitiate God on behalf of all men of any age who will believe what he has revealed to them. But God the Father is the person of the Godhead who justifies.

Rom 8:33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

We know from history that God began justifying gentiles in Acts 10 with the Italian Cornelius in 40 AD when God poured out his Spirit on gentiles according to his own explanation of these events in Acts 11 when he through Peter informed the other apostles that this is what took place. He gave his Spirit , who is salvation, on the lone condition of them believing that Jesus willingly died for them and was buried and rose again from the dead. This is true from this point on throughout this age for all men everywhere.

In the next age God the Father will save those of Israel and gentiles who will believe in Jesus and also believe the the gospel of the kingdom of heaven is at hand. Those who will believe this will die instead of identifying with Satan through his required mark in their bodies.

God is in charge of who he will save and when he will save them and under what conditions.

I remind you of what Jesus said about that time in his Olivet Discourse.

14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world (kosmos) for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand)

May Jesus Christ be high and lifted up and praised by this post. Amen!

How I agree with your closing words of praise! Thanks again for your reply.

 

[percho]

Thanks David for your answer. The reason I did not quote all the conversation between Jesus and the gentile woman is because I anticipated your response would be exactly as it is. You would quote these verses as if they moderated or modified, altered, or otherwise changed the directive of the one who sent him. How did an act of grace and mercy from one whose character included grace and mercy overrule and change the divine directive.

Mt 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

What Jesus did surely did not effect the directive of the Father because Jesus was in the process of going to the lost sheep of the house of Israel when these deeds occurred.

20 For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel.

I am wondering now out loud if any wondering took place in the crowd because of these things he did. This is called prep work for when the gentiles were included in the equation of salvation in his person. No doubt he received fame throughout the region because of these acts of grace..
So Jesus marvelled at her faith and she marvelled at his work. BTW, as a side note, faith has degrees. This was great faith. The Centurion had greatest faith exceeding any among the Israelites.

See this for the time gentiles will be included and by what basis.

The historical context is here:
Then Jesus six days before the passover came to Bethany, where Lazarus was, which had been dead, whom he raised from the dead.
The remainder of the gospel of John is in the context of this last week.

Jn 1220 And there were certain Greeks among them that came up to worship at the feast:
21 The same came therefore to Philip, which was of Bethsaida of Galilee, and desired him, saying, Sir, we would see Jesus.
22 Philip cometh and telleth Andrew: and again Andrew and Philip tell Jesus.
23 And Jesus answered them, saying, The hour is come, that the Son of man should be glorified.
24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.


Timing is everything with God. These Greeks would not be justified by believing Jesus is the Christ, the son of God and his kingdom is at hand as was required of the Jews during the ministry of Jesus, but they will be saved by believing the gospel of the grace of God because he has died for them, was buried, and was raised again from the dead. This is when he was glorified.

The death of Jesus Christ for sin and his resurrection to propitiate God on behalf of all men of any age who will believe what he has revealed to them. But God the Father is the person of the Godhead who justifies.

Rom 8:33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

We know from history that God began justifying gentiles in Acts 10 with the Italian Cornelius in 40 AD when God poured out his Spirit on gentiles according to his own explanation of these events in Acts 11 when he through Peter informed the other apostles that this is what took place. He gave his Spirit , who is salvation, on the lone condition of them believing that Jesus willingly died for them and was buried and rose again from the dead. This is true from this point on throughout this age for all men everywhere.

In the next age God the Father will save those of Israel and gentiles who will believe in Jesus and also believe the the gospel of the kingdom of heaven is at hand. Those who will believe this will die instead of identifying with Satan through his required mark in their bodies.

God is in charge of who he will save and when he will save them and under what conditions.

I remind you of what Jesus said about that time in his Olivet Discourse.

14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world (kosmos) for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand)

May Jesus Christ be high and lifted up and praised by this post. Amen!

I think John 7:37-39 is very relative to your post

In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

 

[Van]

The Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, “ALL THE NATIONS WILL BE BLESSED IN YOU.” [Galatians 3:8]

Here we see "Nations" used to refer to both Jews and Gentiles, and that justification comes through individual faith, not a national culture. Thus Matthew 25:32 refers to separating individual sheep, Jew or Gentile, from individual goats, Jew or Gentile.

 

[MrW]

This post does not even address what I said. I believe the view of Galatians 3 which denies the separation of believers into two groups, we are all Israel. My view is called Progressive Dispensationalism, and you can study it on line.

I explained that Joel 3:2 supports my view and precludes your view.

The church is not Israel.

 

[37818]

The church is not Israel.

Agreed. Yet, the saved Israel of God is a part of the church.
See Revelation 21:12, . . . and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel: . . . .


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[Earth Wind and Fire]

Just a note -

ἔθνη (translated "nations") means "people" (not "nations" as we sometimes think of nations...like the US, UK, etc).

I think of it like "people groups". In Christ we are a chosen people (a chosen nation, a chosen race).

… and what about the Father God? Are we not first chosen by Him? At least, that is my understanding. Since I’m a Trinitarian, I believe Christ as Logos points to the fathers dictates in support of Him. Then we must remember the work of the the Holy Spirit. He (HS) intellectualizes the ( I want to say specimen) in order for enlightenment. A pretty slick process if you ask me, His humble servent.

 

[JD731]

The Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, “ALL THE NATIONS WILL BE BLESSED IN YOU.” [Galatians 3:8]

Here we see "Nations" used to refer to both Jews and Gentiles, and that justification comes through individual faith, not a national culture. Thus Matthew 25:32 refers to separating individual sheep, Jew or Gentile, from individual goats, Jew or Gentile.

The gospel in this context is the good news that God will bless the gentiles through the seed of Abraham. How this promise has been and is being fulfilled in this age is that God through sending his only begotten son, Jesus Christ, the perfect man, to become sin for the whole world and pay it's penalty which is death, thus taking away the sin of the world, not imputing sin to sinners while they live in the flesh, judging them after death. (it is appointed unto man once to die and after this the judgement He 9:27) Because of this great grace of God any and all persons born of Adam may be reconciled to God through faith that Jesus Christ paid the penalty for their sins and God really did accept his payment like he said he would. This new birth, unique to this age, does not make the sinner an Israelite, but it does make them a son of God with a heavenly inheritance. God accepted what Jesus did for us because he raised him from the dead. The church, the body of Christ, formed in this age, has a heavenly inheritance. Abraham and his physical seed have an earthly inheritance as described in the Abrahamic Covenant. It is an everlasting covenant. It's promises cannot fail and the righteous of other ages will be raised bodily from the dead to receive the promises God made to them while they lived.

If a person could understand this he would see the greatness and the faithfulness of our God.

 

[Van]

The church is not Israel.

The church is part of "All Israel!" Anyone can post unsupported claims. The key if I have presented evidence that "all the nations" refers to both Jews and Gentiles. See post # 18.

 

[Van]

The gospel in this context is the good news that God will bless the gentiles through the seed of Abraham. How this promise has been and is being fulfilled in this age is that God through sending his only begotten son, Jesus Christ, the perfect man, to become sin for the whole world and pay it's penalty which is death, thus taking away the sin of the world, not imputing sin to sinners while they live in the flesh, judging them after death. (it is appointed unto man once to die and after this the judgement He 9:27) Because of this great grace of God any and all persons born of Adam may be reconciled to God through faith that Jesus Christ paid the penalty for their sins and God really did accept his payment like he said he would. This new birth, unique to this age, does not make the sinner an Israelite, but it does make them a son of God with a heavenly inheritance. God accepted what Jesus did for us because he raised him from the dead. The church, the body of Christ, formed in this age, has a heavenly inheritance. Abraham and his physical seed have an earthly inheritance as described in the Abrahamic Covenant. It is an everlasting covenant. It's promises cannot fail and the righteous of other ages will be raised bodily from the dead to receive the promises God made to them while they lived.

If a person could understand this he would see the greatness and the faithfulness of our God.

Simply repeating one false claim after another, and avalanche of fiction, does not move the ball.

1) God sent His uniquely divine Son, God incarnate, Jesus the Anointed One.

2) He was treated as sin, but was not sin, as He was just.

3) Christ did not take anyone's sin when He died on the cross, but He did provide the means of reconciliation. Only those who "receive" the reconciliation" have their sins taken out of the way, having them then nailed to the cross.

4) Yes, while we physically live, after being spiritually born anew, none of our sinful thoughts or acts are held against us, having been removed once for all by the blood of the Lamb.

5) The spiritual rebirth occurs after we are spiritually transferred into Christ and undergo the washing of regeneration, which could be understood as the washing of rebirth.

6) The rebirth makes those born anew siblings of Christ, thus members of "All Israel."

 

[MrW]

Agreed. Yet, the saved Israel of God is a part of the church.
See Revelation 21:12, . . . and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel: . . . .


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Yes. There’s no difference between Jew and Greek; all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. The church is all the saved. However, the church is not Israel and Israel is not the church. The verses in Revelation 21 references Old Testament saints, Heaven’s foundation for all saints; it does not directly refer to the New Testament church.

 

[MrW]

The church is part of "All Israel!" Anyone can post unsupported claims. The key if I have presented evidence that "all the nations" refers to both Jews and Gentiles. See post # 18.

No, it is not. Israel and the church are separate entities. The promises, the church are heavenly. The promises to Israel, to be fulfilled during the millennium, are earthly. The remnant of Israel that is now saved are in the church, just like Gentiles. The rest of Israel will not be saved until the millennium.

 

[Van]

No, it is not. Israel and the church are separate entities. The promises, the church are heavenly. The promises to Israel, to be fulfilled during the millennium, are earthly. The remnant of Israel that is now saved are in the church, just like Gentiles. The rest of Israel will not be saved until the millennium.

Typical response, ignoring the reason the church is part of All Israel. Just a repeat of false claims. Here it is again, when a person under the New Covenant is born anew, they become "siblings of Christ." Romans 8:29. Not to put too fine a point on it, but if my brother is an Israelite, I am an Israelite. You cannot get around it, so you ignore it and change the subject.

Not to mention there is no difference between Jew and Gentile, Israel and the Church, male or female, slave or free in Christ. None, zip, nada...

 

[JonC]

… and what about the Father God? Are we not first chosen by Him? At least, that is my understanding. Since I’m a Trinitarian, I believe Christ as Logos points to the fathers dictates in support of Him. Then we must remember the work of the the Holy Spirit. He (HS) intellectualizes the ( I want to say specimen) in order for enlightenment. A pretty slick process if you ask me, His humble servent.

Insofar as the "choosing" goes, it is kinda circular. We are chosen by the Father, but chosen in Christ (not "to be in Christ"). We are elect based on the Elect (Christ).

 

[Van]

We were chosen corporately, before creation, when Christ was chosen individually to be God's Redeemer, His Lamb of God. Thus we were chosen in Him as those God's Redeemer might redeem, those whose faith God might credit as righteousness. Once individually chosen, during our physical lifetime, and placed into Christ we went from "of My sheep" to being "My sheep. Those of the lost who are not "of My sheep" are indeed heading for destruction, but they have not yet been separated out like goats. That only occurs after physical death. Everyone who physically dies, while NOT one of His sheep, will be separated out like a goat, and will receive eternal punishment.

 

[JD731]

Simply repeating one false claim after another, and avalanche of fiction, does not move the ball.

1) God sent His uniquely divine Son, God incarnate, Jesus the Anointed One.

2) He was treated as sin, but was not sin, as He was just.

3) Christ did not take anyone's sin when He died on the cross, but He did provide the means of reconciliation. Only those who "receive" the reconciliation" have their sins taken out of the way, having them then nailed to the cross.

4) Yes, while we physically live, after being spiritually born anew, none of our sinful thoughts or acts are held against us, having been removed once for all by the blood of the Lamb.

5) The spiritual rebirth occurs after we are spiritually transferred into Christ and undergo the washing of regeneration, which could be understood as the washing of rebirth.

6) The rebirth makes those born anew siblings of Christ, thus members of "All Israel."

My tag line is Believe the words and honour context. My conclusions come from this practice.

1) Jn 3:16 - For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son...........

2) 2 Cor 5:21 - He (God the Father) has made him ( Jesus Christ) to be sin for us who knew no sin that we may be the righteouness of God in him

3) He 9:21 - For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world (165 Aion = age) hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.
Jn 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin (singular) of the world (kosmos).

4) Affirmed

5) Yes - God is renewing his image; Ti 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

6) It makes us brothers with Christ and a part of the NEW man, which is not Israel: 2 Cor 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. - 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: Eph 1:4 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain (Jew and gentile converts) one new man, so making peace;

There is an Israel of God but there is no new Israel. The church is a new man.

 

[MrW]

And Galatians 3:8, where it says “ nations” it is the word “ethnos”, which is the word used to refer to Gentile heathen nations, not to Israel or Jews.