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Thoughts on Justification

Martin Marprelate

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I am currently on holiday, and have been doing a bit of study. I am interested to know what folk here think about Justification.
So firstly, how does justification differ from forgiveness?

Secondly, in the Book of Romans, Paul tells us that we are justified by three things:
1. We are justified by grace. Rom. 3:24.
2. We are justified by faith. Rom. 5:1.
3. We are justified by the blood of Christ. Rom. 5:9.

How would one reconcile these three statements?
 

Paleouss

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I am currently on holiday, and have been doing a bit of study.
Greetings to you Martin. I'm on my way to an appointment so don't have much time.
So firstly, how does justification differ from forgiveness?
It seems to me that justification is a one-time legal, if you will, act that makes a person in "right standing" with God. IMO, it relates to the law. Forgiveness, if we are seeking differences (because they overlap a great deal), relates to the act of God, His love, Mercy, or His good pleasure.

Justification: relates to the Law and right standing
Forgiveness: relates to God and right standing relationship

Secondly, in the Book of Romans, Paul tells us that we are justified by three things:
1. We are justified by grace. Rom. 3:24.
2. We are justified by faith. Rom. 5:1.
3. We are justified by the blood of Christ. Rom. 5:9.
All these are true, none contradict the other, and none are true without the other. We are brought back into right standing because of the Grace of God, by the blood of Christ, through faith.

IMO, anyone who claims one and omits the others is not expressing the full wonder of God's plan He has for us.

Keep seeking God's truth as if it were hidden treasure (Prov 2)
 

Silverhair

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Greetings to you Martin. I'm on my way to an appointment so don't have much time.

It seems to me that justification is a one-time legal, if you will, act that makes a person in "right standing" with God. IMO, it relates to the law. Forgiveness, if we are seeking differences (because they overlap a great deal), relates to the act of God, His love, Mercy, or His good pleasure.

Justification: relates to the Law and right standing
Forgiveness: relates to God and right standing relationship


All these are true, none contradict the other, and none are true without the other. We are brought back into right standing because of the Grace of God, by the blood of Christ, through faith.

IMO, anyone who claims one and omits the others is not expressing the full wonder of God's plan He has for us.

Keep seeking God's truth as if it were hidden treasure (Prov 2)

The only thing I would change is that forgiveness is the ongoing act of God to forgive us our sins when we confess them to Him.
 

DaveXR650

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Secondly, in the Book of Romans, Paul tells us that we are justified by three things:
1. We are justified by grace. Rom. 3:24.
2. We are justified by faith. Rom. 5:1.
3. We are justified by the blood of Christ. Rom. 5:9.

How would one reconcile these three statements?
I would like to hear your views as you continue on in the latter part of Romans 5 and into chapter 6. It seems that Paul also develops the idea of our justification depending on our union with Christ. I have just been listening to the old Martyn Lloyd-Jones sermons on Romans 6 verses 1-11. He does several sermons on this and what struck me was the way he emphasizes that chapter 6 verses 1-11 are all about Christ's work, not our work in sanctification, and so he seems to be saying (in answer to the question in 6:1 about if it's possible to just continue in sin) that no, we are now united with Christ.

So I think we are justified by grace, and faith, and the blood of Christ, and this is a reality for us as individuals as we are united with Christ, as in Romans 6. I just happen to be listening recently, like today and yesterday, to Lloyd-Jones and it was encouraging to me at least.
 

kyredneck

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Secondly, in the Book of Romans, Paul tells us that we are justified by three things:
1. We are justified by grace. Rom. 3:24.
2. We are justified by faith. Rom. 5:1.
3. We are justified by the blood of Christ. Rom. 5:9.

Thirdly, the Book of Romans has more to say about justification than the three things listed:

3 for not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified: Ro 2
24 being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Ro 3
1 Being therefore justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ;
9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, shall we be saved from the wrath of God through him. Ro 5
33 Who shall lay anything to the charge of God`s elect? It is God that justifieth; Ro 8
 

Martin Marprelate

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Thanks to @Paleouss and @DaveXR650 for some helpful comments. For the benefit of @kyredneck I will deal with the texts he has brought up in due course.

Perhaps we can start with a definition, from the Baptist Catechism ("Keach's") of 1690.
Q. What is Justification?
A. Justification is an act of God's free grace unto sinners, in which He pardoneth all their sins, accepteth and accounteth their persons righteous in His sight; not for anything wrought in them, but only for the perfect obedience and full satisfaction of Christ, by God imputed to them, and received by grace alone.

So on that basis, Justiication does not refer to any subjective change brought about in a person's disposition, but is solely a change in his standing to relation to God's law. That to justify cannot possibly mean to make a person inherently righteous or good can be seen in various Scriptures, e.g. Luke 7:29. 'And when all the people heard [Jesus], even the taxcollectors justified God...' Obviously, no one can make God inherently righteous! Rather, they declared Him to be righteous.
Justification is a legal declaration; the sentence of a judge upon a person brought before him for judgment, the gracious act of God as Judge by which He pronounces a believing sinner to be freed from the penalty of the law and fully restored to divine favour. It is also His righteous act because on the one hand the sinner's guilt has been taken away by Christ (John 1:29), and on the other hand, our Lord's perfect obedience and righteousness are credited to him (Romans 5:18-19). 'For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that We might become the righteousness of God in Him.'

Therefore justification differs from mere forgiveness, though there are several similarities. It is only God who can forgive sins (Mark 2:7), and only He who justifies sinners (Romans 3:30). Free grace is the cause in both (Eph. 1:7; Rom. 3:24), and both are procured by the blood of Christ ((Matt. 26:28; Romans 5:9) and received by faith (Acts 26:18; Romans 5:1).
However, 'God is said to be "justified" (Romans 3:4) but it would be blasphemy to speak of Him being pardoned. A criminal may be pardoned, but only a righteous person can be justified. Forgiveness deals with a man's acts; justification with the man himself. The law does not pardon, for it knows no relaxation, but God pardons the transgressions of the law in His people by providing a satisfaction adequate to their transgressions. Pardon takes away the filthy garments, but justification provides a change of raiment. Pardon frees from death, but righteousness imputed is called "justification of life" (Romans 5:18). The one views the believer as completely sinful; the other as completely righteous. Pardon is the remission of punishment; justification is the declaration that no ground for the infliction of punishment exists. Forgiveness may be repeated multiple times (Matthew 18:21-22); justification is once for all (e.g. Romans 8:33).......... Just as "condemnation" is not the execution of punishment, but rather the formal declaration that the accused is guilty and worthy of punishment, so "justification is not merely the remission of punishment but the judicial announcement that punishment cannot be justly inflicted - the accused being fully conformed to all the positive requirements of the law, Christ's perfect obedience being legally reckoned to his account.' (A.W. Pink).

I think that will do for the moment. Internet reception is a bit shaky where I am at present; but I will hope to write some more in due course.
 

kyredneck

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For the benefit of @kyredneck I will deal with the texts he has brought up in due course.

Good! Maybe this time it'll be deeper and more substantial than your usual accusation of "parroting Roman Catholic doctrine".

And, you couldn't be more wrong here:

Justiication does not refer to any subjective change brought about in a person's disposition, but is solely a change in his standing to relation to God's law. That to justify cannot possibly mean to make a person inherently righteous or good can be seen in various Scriptures,

Not if you actually believe the T in TULIP.
 
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