For KevinThrowe and others lurking who may believe him.....

[Scarlett O.]

You said that you think we believe that we could be disobedient to the commands of God all our lives and then when we are "old and sick" just say "oops, sorry" and enter heaven.

This just needs a new post so anyone lurking on our forum can understand the truth of God and the truth of the Bible and the truth of what we at the Baptist Board believe.

It doesn't matter if you are 12 or 102. When you come to understand the depravity of your personal sin and its affront to our Holy God, and then you forsake your sins and turn to Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, you will confess that in your heart and you will be saved.

That's NOT, NOT, NOT saying "oops, sorry". Flippantly saying "oops sorry" to God isn't repentance nor being truthful about who you are.

God says over and over in his Word that people can do NOTHING to earn his favor or his salvation. If what you say, Kevin, is true, , then Jesus Christ would not have had to die. We could just "be good" and be in, like Flinn with God. That's unbiblical.

Whom do you believe that Jesus died for and why?

You have either sat under false teachers, not read the Bible, or you are just here to troll.

 

[Silverhair]

@Scarlett O. I like what you have said but I would edit it just a bit.

You wrote
"God says over and over in his Word that people can do NOTHING to earn his favor or his salvation. If that's true, then Jesus Christ would not have had to die."

Perhaps it should read "If what you said were true, then Jesus Christ..."

We have to trust in the risen Christ if we are to be saved and that seem to be something that @KevinThrowe does not understand.

 

[Scarlett O.]

Edited for clarification

 

[atpollard]

It is the flaw of thinking someone can be only a "little bit bad"... sick and in need of a little medicine and rest ... rather than "a slave to sin" [John 8:34] or "dead" and "by nature children of wrath" [Ephesians 2:1-3] thus in desperate need of MERCY [Romans 9:15-16] and a new heart [Ezekiel 36:26-27].

We all need a transformation, not a little touch up.

Philippians 2:13 [NASB] ... for it is God who is at work in you, both to desire and to work for [His] good pleasure.

 

[Psalty]

You said that you think we believe that we could be disobedient to the commands of God all our lives and then when we are "old and sick" just say "oops, sorry" and enter heaven.

This just needs a new post so anyone lurking on our forum can understand the truth of God and the truth of the Bible and the truth of what we at the Baptist Board believe.

It doesn't matter if you are 12 or 102. When you come to understand the depravity of your personal sin and its affront to our Holy God, and then you forsake your sins and turn to Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, you will confess that in your heart and you will be saved.

That's NOT, NOT, NOT saying "oops, sorry". Flippantly saying "oops sorry" to God isn't repentance nor being truthful about who you are.

God says over and over in his Word that people can do NOTHING to earn his favor or his salvation. If what you say, Kevin, is true, , then Jesus Christ would not have had to die. We could just "be good" and be in, like Flinn with God. That's unbiblical.

Whom do you believe that Jesus died for and why?

You have either sat under false teachers, not read the Bible, or you are just here to troll.

It is hard to know what this person believes just from reading your paraphrase.

We should not forget the thief on the cross in Luke 23:42-43:
And he was saying, “Jesus, remember me when You come in Your kingdom!” And He said to him, “Truly I say to you, today you shall be with Me in Paradise.”
— Luke 23:42-43 NASB95

 

[Ben1445]

It is hard to know what this person believes just from reading your paraphrase.

It is a statement to address someone who believes that you must observe the sacraments and do good works to be/stay saved.
It is to say, salvation isn’t enabling sin, even if it may sound that way to the carnally minded.

 

[Van]

It is a matter of life or death that we understand the requirements of the gospel to obtain mercy. We do not want to be of those whom Christ will say, I never knew you." We do not want to be of those whom Christ will say "you did not give me what I needed." Unbelief is unpardonable, and unbelief can be in the form of partial belief, such as superficial belief rather than going "all in" for Christ. Partial belief can be in the form of treasuring Christ along with equally treasuring the things of this world, such as wealth, relationships or security. When we throw ourselves upon the mercy of Christ, we must not hold anything back. The gospel is NOT easy believism.

 

[JesusFan]

It is a statement to address someone who believes that you must observe the sacraments and do good works to be/stay saved.
It is to say, salvation isn’t enabling sin, even if it may sound that way to the carnally minded.

I am a Calvinist, so the person if one of the elect would indeed come to Jesus while on death bed, but even if was not a Calvinist, would say that one living in sin entire life would not even desire to get saved, due to hardening their hearts towards Jesus and rejecting conviction of Holy Spirit entire lives

 

[Ben1445]

I am a Calvinist, so the person if one of the elect would indeed come to Jesus while on death bed, but even if was not a Calvinist, would say that one living in sin entire life would not even desire to get saved, due to hardening their hearts towards Jesus and rejecting conviction of Holy Spirit entire lives

I’m not sure what a virtual reality application of the Bible with predetermined conversions has to do with the OP.
I am aware that you are a Calvinist. I don’t see how that answers the OP or the question directed at the OP by @Psalty.
I don’t know what I am supposed to do with it.
What was it that I said that stepped on the toes of the “greatest, never mentioned in the Bible” saint of all time, JC?

I’m not a Calvinist. But I don’t believe that you must persevere in order to be saved. I am aware that people sin before and after salvation. It has nothing to do with our perseverance. It has everything to do with the efficacious blood of Christ. What is begun in faith is not perfected by works or perseverance.