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Thoughts on Justification

Silverhair

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Abraham was born of God long before Genesis 15:6. ALL of God's saints are born from above BEFORE conversion.

Conversion is being born of God. We are changed from unsaved to saved. From not being Children of God to being children of God.

What kind of bible are you reading KY?
 

percho

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Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him. For if when we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life. Rom 5:9,10 NKJV

Heb 9:22 RSV Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins.
 

Brightfame52

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Your a broken record BF. So once again I will ignore you until you actually make some logical comment.
according to Rom 5:19 how shall the many be made righteous? Rom 5:19

19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
 

percho

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according to Rom 5:19 how shall the many be made righteous? Rom 5:19

19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
Bingo

The very following:
And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. Phil 2:8
Heb 5:7,8 YLT who in the days of his flesh both prayers and supplications unto Him who was able to save him from death -- with strong crying and tears -- having offered up, and having been heard in respect to that which he feared, through being a Son, did learn by the things which he suffered -- the obedience,

The obedience of faith - The faith of, see Heb above, Son, Jesus Christ. See also: Gal 2:16 KJV Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Hebrews 12:2 ἀφορῶντες εἰς τὸν τῆς πίστεως ἀρχηγὸν καὶ τελειωτὴν Ἰησοῦν

Looking into the, of the faith author and perfector, Jesus

IMHO justified by faith has nothing to what the one justified thinks, believes or anything else.
IMHO people believe because God calls them unto belief by having given them the Spirit of Truth, because of the faith of Jesus Christ.

See Gal 3:2 YLT this only do I wish to learn from you -- by works of law the Spirit did ye receive, or by the hearing of faith?
3:14 that to the nations the blessing of Abraham may come in Christ Jesus, that the promise of the Spirit we may receive through the faith. -----
definite article ---- the faith of Christ in dying for our sins.
Acts 2:33 YLT at the right hand then of God having been exalted -- also the promise of the Holy Spirit having received from the Father -- he was shedding forth this, which now ye see and hear;

That is/was the path of the Spirit - From the Father to the Son to the first-fruit of the Spirit R8:23 as the following James 1:18 YLT having counselled, He did beget us with a word of truth, for our being a certain first-fruit of His creatures.
 
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