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What Day Did Christ Die?

Which day did Christ die?

  • Wed

    Votes: 2 16.7%
  • Thurs

    Votes: 2 16.7%
  • Fri

    Votes: 4 33.3%
  • I am not sure

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I don't know, and I don't care - all I know is that he arose!

    Votes: 4 33.3%

  • Total voters
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37818

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He would have been in the tomb on Friday and Saturday, 2 days.

Thursday night, Friday night, and Saturday night, 3 nights.
It is as if you didn't read post #97.

In the tomb,
Night. (Thursday-Friday.)
Whole day. (Friday.)
full night .(Friday-Saturday.)
Whole day. (Saturday.)
Full night. (Saturday-Sunday.)
Raised on the third day. Sunday.)
 
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Charlie24

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You are effectively denying Christ being raised on to the third day according to the word of God.

What I'm effectively stating is what I have stated before, no matter what day you pick for the crucifixion there is an apparent contradiction.

That means we are not counting the days according to the way the Jews counted them.

I have more to day about that but right now I'm cooking.
 

37818

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John 2:18-22, Then answered the Jews and said unto him, What sign shewest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things? Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? But he spake of the temple of his body. When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.
 

37818

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What date and day was Mark 14:12? . . . the first day of unleavened bread, when they killed the passover, his disciples said unto him, Where wilt thou that we go and prepare that thou mayest eat the passover?

I am persuaded it was Wednesday Nisan 14th. The day before Christ was crucified. Mark 14:17. . . . And in the evening he cometh with the twelve.

Exodus 12:18.
Deuteronomy 16:8.
 

Charlie24

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What date and day was Mark 14:12? . . . the first day of unleavened bread, when they killed the passover, his disciples said unto him, Where wilt thou that we go and prepare that thou mayest eat the passover?

I am persuaded it was Wednesday Nisan 14th. The day before Christ was crucified. Mark 14:17. . . . And in the evening he cometh with the twelve.

Exodus 12:18.
Deuteronomy 16:8.

What I'm trying to say is that pinpointing the day of the crucifixion is a mystery. I have pondered this most of my adult life trying to figure it out.

Whether Wed., Thur., or Fri,. there is a contradiction and I don't believe for one moment the fault is in the Scripture.

We are gathering information from 4 different authors addressing different audiences. We are missing something.

In one or the other authors we are missing the timing, misunderstanding, and I'm not smart enough in the ancient ways of Israel to figure it out and I gave up.
 

37818

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What I'm trying to say is that pinpointing the day of the crucifixion is a mystery. I have pondered this most of my adult life trying to figure it out.

Whether Wed., Thur., or Fri,. there is a contradiction and I don't believe for one moment the fault is in the Scripture.

We are gathering information from 4 different authors addressing different audiences. We are missing something.

In one or the other authors we are missing the timing, misunderstanding, and I'm not smart enough in the ancient ways of Israel to figure it out and I gave up.
Please present each of the 4 difficulties. One at a time. So we can discuss each separately.

I had held a Friday crucifixion.
I read R. A. Torrey's explanation of his Wednesday view.
Based on Matthew 12:40, For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

In so doing I came upon evidence for the Thursday crucifixion. Jewish dates begin at Sun down. Mark 1:32, And at even, when the sun did set, . . . .

Mark 15:42-43, And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath, Joseph of Arimathaea, an honourable counsellor, which also waited for the kingdom of God, came, and went in boldly unto Pilate, and craved the body of Jesus.

Thursday evening is the beginning of the day of preparation.

So please present each of the 4 difficulties. One at a time. So we can discuss each separately.
 
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Charlie24

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Please present each of the 4 difficulties. One at a time. So we can discuss each separately.

I had held a Friday crucifixion.
I read R. A. Torrey's explanation of his Wednesday view.
Based on Matthew 12:40, For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

In so doing I came upon evidence for the Thursday crucifixion. Jewish dates begin at Sun down. Mark 1:32, And at even, when the sun did set, . . . .

Mark 15:42-43, And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath, Joseph of Arimathaea, an honourable counsellor, which also waited for the kingdom of God, came, and went in boldly unto Pilate, and craved the body of Jesus.

Thursday evening is the beginning of the day of preparation.

I know how you feel, I once felt the same way, and it's a good feeling.

I can't get into it the way I used to when I was younger.

I've got something going on healthwise as I've mentioned before, when I begin something like this I get fidgety, irritated, and I don't know what it's coming from. I know from experience it's a place I don't want to be. I've found myself having to stick with the less complex issues that don't require stress, the things I can pull from memory.

If I begin pinpointing the issues with the 4 authors and reasoning out the differences to discuss them, that will take me where I don't want to go.

I would like to help you but I can't, my friend.
 

37818

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I know how you feel, I once felt the same way, and it's a good feeling.

I can't get into it the way I used to when I was younger.

I've got something going on healthwise as I've mentioned before, when I begin something like this I get fidgety, irritated, and I don't know what it's coming from. I know from experience it's a place I don't want to be. I've found myself having to stick with the less complex issues that don't require stress, the things I can pull from memory.

If I begin pinpointing the issues with the 4 authors and reasoning out the p to to be odifferences to discuss them, that will take me where I don't want to go.

I would like to help you but I can't, my friend.
Ok.
Is there one specific question? That you would like me to address?

Anyway, in 30 AD Nisan 14th was a Wednesday.
 

Charlie24

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Ok.
Is there one specific question? That you would like me to address?

Anyway, in 30 AD Nisan 14th was a Wednesday.

If that was the year Christ was crucified the 14th was preparation day and the 15th was the High Day Sabbath.

That means Christ was crucified on Nisan 14th preparation day, a Wednesday crucifixion.
 

37818

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Well, I at this time am persuaded the crucifixion 30 AD was on Thursday Nisan 15th, Julian date April 6. The day of preparation began Thursday evening Nisan 16th.
 

Charlie24

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Well, I at this time am persuaded the crucifixion 30 AD was on Thursday Nisan 15th, Julian date April 6. The day of preparation began Thursday evening Nisan 16th.

It's not entirely unreasonable that you are correct. We don't even know the year Christ was crucified so how could we know what day the High Day fell on at His crucifixion?

From my studies I came to conclusion, or guess if you will, it was a Wed. crucifixion fulfilling Christs' words that He would be in the tomb 3 days and 3 nights, That's basically all I have.
 

JD731

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The typology of scripture must be reconciled to actual fulfilment of the types and figures. In the case of the day of the crucifixion and death of our saviour this is extremely important and instructive. The six hours on the cross represents the first 6 thousand years of human history. If you are looking at the six hours on the cross it corresponds to the time when God through Christ was giving a ransom for the world. In actual time, the seventh of the seven thousand years is the "day of the LORD," which we know from scripture is 1000 years. It is a day of rest when the work of redemption is finished and the Lord is at rest from his labor.

God has already said, and seem no one takes him serious, that one day is as a thousand years and a thousand years as a day. Many places in the scriptures where this is clearly seen and both the thousand year day is visible and the twenty four hour day of man is present. Example:


Mar 9:1 And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power. (the physical kingdom of God comes on day seven, the Sabbath day of rest in the Jewish economy).
2 And after six days Jesus taketh with him Peter, and James, and John, and leadeth them up into an high mountain apart by themselves: and he was transfigured before them.

John 5:17
But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.

John 19:30
When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

At the beginning of the 7 day week Jesus had entered Bethany (house of figs) and John said it was 6 days before the Passover.

Then Jesus six days before the passover came to Bethany, where Lazarus was, which had been dead, whom he raised from the dead.

He would teach in the temple for the first 4 days and at the end of 4 days he would depart the temple for the last time. This in itself is a symbolic event. Sunday, Monday. Tuesday. Wednesday ,representing the time of the OT. Then the Olivet discourse where we get the two days of this present dispensation during which Jesus is on the Father's throne as making intercession for us, Thursday and Friday, days 5 and 6. BTW, the # 5 is the number of God for grace. Then, Day 7, the day Jesus rests from his labor. All together you have the complete week at the end of the 7th day. What then?

A new week begins on Sunday.
Re 21;1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. A new week, a new start.

Matthew 28:1
In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week,

I have just touched the surface of this picture story of Gods great plan of redemption. It certainly is not exhaustive and I have not tried in this post to connect all the dots. It is incredible.


Luke 21:37
And in the day time he was teaching in the temple; and at night he went out, and abode in the mount that is called the mount of Olives.

.The Olivet Discourse is on Wednesday.

The work was finished in six days and he rested on the seventh. Believe the words. God has drawn us a picture. Can we see it?

This is an attempt to provoke thought +
 

percho

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Please present each of the 4 difficulties. One at a time. So we can discuss each separately.

I had held a Friday crucifixion.
I read R. A. Torrey's explanation of his Wednesday view.
Based on Matthew 12:40, For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

In so doing I came upon evidence for the Thursday crucifixion. Jewish dates begin at Sun down. Mark 1:32, And at even, when the sun did set, . . . .

Mark 15:42-43, And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath, Joseph of Arimathaea, an honourable counsellor, which also waited for the kingdom of God, came, and went in boldly unto Pilate, and craved the body of Jesus.

Thursday evening is the beginning of the day of preparation.

So please present each of the 4 difficulties. One at a time. So we can discuss each separately.
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Yes, Jewish holy days and the weekly Sabbath generally have a preparation period preceding them
, known in Jewish tradition as the day of preparation (often Friday for Sabbath). This day is utilized for cleaning, cooking, and completing tasks that are prohibited during the holy day’s rest.

Do you believe the above is fact or not a fact?

Do you have any orthodox Jewish friend you can ask?

What sabbath [sig] day had passed when the women bought spices. Mark 16:1
What sabbaths [pl] were passed when the women arrived at the tomb with the spices Matt 28:1
Did the women also rest a sabbath day after preparing the spices according to the commandment? Luke 23:56

Can you not see a sabbath rest day, a regular work day, and another sabbath rest day in the above before arriving at the tomb?

I asked before was not every 14th passover day a preparation day for the feast of the 15th? Yes or no, or other.
 

37818

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AI Overview



Yes, Jewish holy days and the weekly Sabbath generally have a preparation period preceding them
, known in Jewish tradition as the day of preparation (often Friday for Sabbath). This day is utilized for cleaning, cooking, and completing tasks that are prohibited during the holy day’s rest.

Do you believe the above is fact or not a fact?

Do you have any orthodox Jewish friend you can ask?

What sabbath [sig] day had passed when the women bought spices. Mark 16:1
What sabbaths [pl] were passed when the women arrived at the tomb with the spices Matt 28:1
Did the women also rest a sabbath day after preparing the spices according to the commandment? Luke 23:56

Can you not see a sabbath rest day, a regular work day, and another sabbath rest day in the above before arriving at the tomb?

I asked before was not every 14th passover day a preparation day for the feast of the 15th? Yes or no, or other.
Nisan 14th is no where in Holy Scripture called the day of preparstion
It js the first day of the seven days of unleavened bread.

Also Jewish calendar days begin at Sun down.

Our Sunday through Saturday are from midnight to midnight.

Now the day of preparation begins at Sun down, in the Thursday evening and ends with our Friday at Sun down being the beginning of the seventh day Sabbath.

Through out Holy Scripture the days of unleavened bread are seven days, not eight days. Now the seven days of the feast of unleavened bread only has six of the seven days of unleavened bread per Deuteronomy 16:8.
 
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percho

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All's thoughts.

Why do you think Jesus died between the ninth and twelfth hour?

Why didn't he die during the night or between the first and ninth hour of the day?

Why? Any thoughts?

Why did Jesus die the day of the month he died? Why not some other day? Just happened when it did or predetermined by the LORD God?

WHY?
 

37818

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All's thoughts.

Why do you think Jesus died between the ninth and twelfth hour?

Why didn't he die during the night or between the first and ninth hour of the day?

Why? Any thoughts?

Why did Jesus die the day of the month he died? Why not some other day? Just happened when it did or predetermined by the LORD God?

WHY?
Jesus received our payment for our sins before He physically died, per John 19:28, . . . Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, . . . .
 
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