Dispensationalism

[Marooncat79]

For dispensationalists

Do you believe that the reinstitution of the sacrifice is efficacious in nature?

Thanks

 

[Charlie24]

For dispensationalists

Do you believe that the reinstitution of the sacrifice is efficacious in nature?

Thanks

Yes, along with millions of other Dispensationalists I believe the sacrifices at the reinstated Feast of Tabernacles, and probably other sacrificial feasts is a memorial to Christ in what He achieved for us on the Cross.

As far as I know this will last for 1000 years and will end with the Kingdom Age. It will not be a Hebrew Feast only any longer, The Gentiles are forced to take part. I believe this is a "in your face" to all who despised the Jews and now they must come through the Jewish priests to see the King.

 

[Ben1445]

For dispensationalists

Do you believe that the reinstitution of the sacrifice is efficacious in nature?

Thanks

Not instead of Jesus.

What sacrifices do you find?

Unless I am missing something I don’t expect a millennium of animal sacrifices.

Hebrews 10:5
Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:

Jonah 2:9
But I will sacrifice unto thee with the voice of thanksgiving;
I will pay that that I have vowed.
Salvation is of the LORD.

Hebrews 13:15
By him therefore let us offer the sacrifice of praise to God continually, that is, the fruit of our lips giving thanks to his name.

 

[Charlie24]

Not instead of Jesus.

What sacrifices do you find?

Unless I am missing something I don’t expect a millennium of animal sacrifices.

Hebrews 10:5
Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:

Jonah 2:9
But I will sacrifice unto thee with the voice of thanksgiving;
I will pay that that I have vowed.
Salvation is of the LORD.

Hebrews 13:15
By him therefore let us offer the sacrifice of praise to God continually, that is, the fruit of our lips giving thanks to his name.

Zech. 14:16-19

"And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.

And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the Lord will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles."

 

[JD731]

For dispensationalists

Do you believe that the reinstitution of the sacrifice is efficacious in nature?

Thanks

Efficacious in nature? I am not sure what you mean. Can you maybe ask the question differently for clarity? I am not sure what you want to know. Also, what sacrifice?

 

[Ben1445]

Zech. 14:16-19

"And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.

And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the Lord will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles."

What sacrifices are called for in the feast of tabernacles?

 

[Charlie24]

What sacrifices are called for in the feast of tabernacles?

I don't know very much about but it's a celebration of harvest time. It has to do with staying outside in make shift booths in honor of their forefathers wilderness journey with Moses. All kinds of animals are sacrificed from bulls to goats and sheep.

All of the sacrifices represented the coming redemption of the Messiah with sin taken away.

 

[Ben1445]

I don't know very much about but it's a celebration of harvest time. It has to do with staying outside in make shift booths in honor of their forefathers wilderness journey with Moses.

All kinds of animals are sacrificed from bulls to goats and sheep.

References please?

All of the sacrifices represented the coming redemption of the Messiah with sin taken away.

 

[Ben1445]

References please?

Lev. 23
Num. 29

 

[Charlie24]

References please?

The inquisitive one, now I've got go to my Bible and look it up, Ben.

That's not being nice to the elderly of the world!

 

[Ben1445]

The inquisitive one, now I've got go to my Bible and look it up, Ben.

That's not being nice to the elderly of the world!

I did a quick look and passed it by.
I went back and was a bit more thorough.
I’m in discussion mode right now. I don’t intend to sound challenging here.

 

[Charlie24]

I did a quick look and passed it by.
I went back and was a bit more thorough.
I’m in discussion mode right now. I don’t intend to sound challenging here.

I'm joking Ben, it's that I'm just lazy in my later years, and not ashamed of it.

You can read all about in Num. 29:12-40 it's also somewhere in Lev. but I'm to lazy to look it up twice.

FoT begins on the 15th day of the 7th month, and there's loads of sacrifices.

 

[Charlie24]

I'm joking Ben, it's that I'm just lazy in my later years, and not ashamed of it.

You can read all about in Num. 29:12-40 it's also somewhere in Lev. but I'm to lazy to look it up twice.

FoT begins on the 15th day of the 7th month, and there's loads of sacrifices.

The Jews are not following the Law today when they celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles.

They are just going through the motions if it.

They have no temple for the sacrifices which is the purpose of the feast.

But that all changes in the future.

 

[Van]

Yet another thread attacking a widely held, if errant, doctrine. Note the OP did not present the biblically correct view. Rather than tell us what the poster does NOT believe, why not tell us the correct view, such a Progressive dispensationalism which does NOT support reinstitution of any aspect of the Old Covenant which conflicts with the New Covenant.

 

[Marooncat79]

Yet another thread attacking a widely held, if errant, doctrine. Note the OP did not present the biblically correct view. Rather than tell us what the poster does NOT believe, why not tell us the correct view, such a Progressive dispensationalism which does NOT support reinstitution of any aspect of the Old Covenant which conflicts with the New Covenant.

Why did dispensationalism need to become “progressive” in the first place?

Was it not correct the first time.

 

[Van]

Why did dispensationalism need to become “progressive” in the first place?

Was it not correct the first time.

No, it was racist nonsense in the first place.

What bothers me is you question this or that belief, rather than presenting the view you believe is correct. Reminds me of all those Western's I love where the bushwhacker hides in the weeds, and picks off one of the good guys.

 

[SovereignGrace]

Everything is racist these days. Even asking a question is racist now! Sheesh!!!

 

[37818]

Hebrews 10:10-13, By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.

 

[DaveXR650]

Tucker Carlson says IDF soldiers are wearing "third temple" patches on their uniforms. He knows because he saw it on the internet. He does correctly point out that more than a few evangelicals believe the temple will be rebuilt. Even if that is true, what I don't know is how many of the guys saying that think it would be a proper thing for the Jews to do.

 

[DaveXR650]

Why did dispensationalism need to become “progressive” in the first place?

Was it not correct the first time.

Maybe the Reformed view needs to be updated. When the reformers said national Israel was no more they were absolutely right, and it had been so for 1500 years. Now that would be completely wrong of course. Never has such a thing happened after so many years.