Ascetic X
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I think Jesus was always eternally the Son of God, the Logos, the Word of God.
Christian orthodoxy maintains that Jesus is the first born of all creation, meaning the foremost, not first thing created in a time series. It has also declared Jesus to be eternally begotten of God the Father. Thus, there was never a time when Jesus was not begotten or birthed by God. This assertion implies Jesus has always been the Son of God.
God did not birth His Son at some point in time. But God did officially announce the title of Jesus being His Son when Jesus arose from the dead. The resurrection somehow substantiated and fully approved Jesus as Son of God.
Hence, God has always existed as a complex, triune entity: Father, Son/Logos, and Holy Spirit. Three distinct people in one deity. Nobody understands this, but the Bible implies it, and we just accept it by faith.
As John 5:26 states, “For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in himself.” In the context of John, this claim to divine aseity [i.e., life in himself] must refer to the Son’s eternal ontology, not to a function of his incarnation.
Supporting this interpretation, John 8 identifies Jesus as the divine son, when Jesus says that “before Abraham was, I am” (v. 58). The “I am” (egō eimi) recalls the Lord’s divine name (“I am who I am,” Exod. 3:14), and Jesus’s antecedent existence (“before Abraham”) surely identifies Jesus as the eternal Son.
However,
Romans 1:2–4 explains how Jesus, as David’s son, is the Son of God and the hope of salvation.
In these verses, Paul speaks of Christ receiving the title “Son of God” at his resurrection.
Verses 3–4 read, “concerning his Son, who was descended from David according to the flesh and was declared to be the Son of God in power according to the Spirit of holiness by his resurrection from the dead, Jesus Christ our Lord.”
Critically, this passage is best understood to speak of Christ’s grandiose supernatural exaltation in his resurrection. Prior to this event, Jesus frequently called Himself the Son of Man (Mortal with Divine Judgmental Authority or Ultimate Human Being).
While Jesus is God the Son throughout His entire celestial pre-human existence and His incarnated human life, his resurrection assigns him the title “Son of God.” This is the testimony of Acts 13:32–33 and Hebrews 5:5–6, as well.
Christian orthodoxy maintains that Jesus is the first born of all creation, meaning the foremost, not first thing created in a time series. It has also declared Jesus to be eternally begotten of God the Father. Thus, there was never a time when Jesus was not begotten or birthed by God. This assertion implies Jesus has always been the Son of God.
God did not birth His Son at some point in time. But God did officially announce the title of Jesus being His Son when Jesus arose from the dead. The resurrection somehow substantiated and fully approved Jesus as Son of God.
Hence, God has always existed as a complex, triune entity: Father, Son/Logos, and Holy Spirit. Three distinct people in one deity. Nobody understands this, but the Bible implies it, and we just accept it by faith.
As John 5:26 states, “For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in himself.” In the context of John, this claim to divine aseity [i.e., life in himself] must refer to the Son’s eternal ontology, not to a function of his incarnation.
Supporting this interpretation, John 8 identifies Jesus as the divine son, when Jesus says that “before Abraham was, I am” (v. 58). The “I am” (egō eimi) recalls the Lord’s divine name (“I am who I am,” Exod. 3:14), and Jesus’s antecedent existence (“before Abraham”) surely identifies Jesus as the eternal Son.
However,
Romans 1:2–4 explains how Jesus, as David’s son, is the Son of God and the hope of salvation.
In these verses, Paul speaks of Christ receiving the title “Son of God” at his resurrection.
Verses 3–4 read, “concerning his Son, who was descended from David according to the flesh and was declared to be the Son of God in power according to the Spirit of holiness by his resurrection from the dead, Jesus Christ our Lord.”
Critically, this passage is best understood to speak of Christ’s grandiose supernatural exaltation in his resurrection. Prior to this event, Jesus frequently called Himself the Son of Man (Mortal with Divine Judgmental Authority or Ultimate Human Being).
While Jesus is God the Son throughout His entire celestial pre-human existence and His incarnated human life, his resurrection assigns him the title “Son of God.” This is the testimony of Acts 13:32–33 and Hebrews 5:5–6, as well.
Luke 1:35
35 The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.”
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