Bring back the Articles of Confederation of 1781.

[KenH]

Bring back the Articles of Confederation of 1781.

 

[Salty]

But with the Articles of Confederation, the Federal govt would have little power

 

[KenH]

But with the Articles of Confederation, the Federal govt would have little power

Exactly, that is why I support bring the Articles back. I stand with Patrick Henry and the other anti-Federalists who saw the disaster that the present Constitution would eventually become, as we see today.

To quote Lysander Spooner, when he wrote about this about the Constitution, "it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it."

 

[Salty]

The COTUS would be ok - IF Congress did not get involved in un-constitional actions.
I would agree the Articles are too weak - - we need something in the middle.

But I thought the 10th Amendment was supposed to balance that out.

 

[KenH]

I would agree the Articles are too weak

The Articles were WAY better than the Constitution has proven itself to be. Under the Articles, the national government could not have grown to the Leviathan it is today, nor could it have put the American people $39 trillion in debt for government profligacy - approximately $115,000 for each and every man, woman, and child in the United States today.

 

[atpollard]

The Articles were WAY better than the Constitution has proven itself to be. Under the Articles, the national government could not have grown to the Leviathan it is today, nor could it have put the American people $39 trillion in debt for government profligacy - approximately $115,000 for each and every man, woman, and child in the United States today.

You can eliminate the budget problem right now … just end all Social Spending (Social Security, Unemployment, Heath Care, Education) and all Defense Spending (Army, Navy, Air Force) just like the Articles of Confederation would not have supported and there is no more budget problem. The debt should be paid off in no time.

The issue is people want the Federal Spending but not the Federal Taxes … so WE THE PEOPLE have exactly what we demanded of our craven elected officials.

 

[Salty]

So no defense spending - in that case we would now be speaking German - and saying “Heil Hitler.”

 

[atpollard]

So no defense spending - in that case we would now be speaking German - and saying “Heil Hitler.”

Well, the point of a CONFEDERATION is that the STATES have all the power individually. The Federal Government had to request money from every state to support a navy and had to request State Militias to field an army. That is why the Confederation was replaced by a Federation and the Articles by the Constitution a mere 10 years after the American Revolution (the Confederation just didn’t work).

We would likely have lost the war of 1812 and been part of the British Empire during WW2.