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Dietary Laws
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GentleGospeller
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Dietary law begins in Genesis 1, not Leviticus.
However, in answer to your question, 'Yes.'Mat_5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Oh brother! Tom Ascol and his SBC Founders 'Ministries' has just published Eat By Faith, by Kat Owens:
https://x.com/Founders_Press/status/2082945142499991744
"Founders Press- There is no spiritual neutrality in food and nutrition. It’s time to replace the world’s ascetic, restrictive, and ineffective approach to nutrition with food-loving, creation-honoring, dominion-taking, Christian nutrition. In Eat by Faith, Functional Nutritional Therapy Practitioner Kat Owens lays a foundation for answering the question of “what is the ideeal [sic] human diet” and then applies that foundation in practical detail to all the major divisions of foods. Using a Biblical worldview, science, and human history, Owens provides an approach..."
https://x.com/Founders_Press/status/2082945142499991744
"Founders Press- There is no spiritual neutrality in food and nutrition. It’s time to replace the world’s ascetic, restrictive, and ineffective approach to nutrition with food-loving, creation-honoring, dominion-taking, Christian nutrition. In Eat by Faith, Functional Nutritional Therapy Practitioner Kat Owens lays a foundation for answering the question of “what is the ideeal [sic] human diet” and then applies that foundation in practical detail to all the major divisions of foods. Using a Biblical worldview, science, and human history, Owens provides an approach..."
KenH
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No, they are not in force today.
Acts 10:13-15 And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
1 Timothy 4:1-5 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
Colossians 2:13-23 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
and having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances,
( touch not; taste not; handle not;
which all are to perish with the using; )after the commandments and doctrines of men?
Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in will worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body; not in any honour to the satisfying of the flesh.
In fact, the whole Mosaic Law is no longer relevant (no one could save himself through it anyway, as no mere human can keep it perfectly, only the God-man did) - Christ fulfilled it on the behalf of God's elect.
Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Romans 3:20-28
Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
for all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
to declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
KenH
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If someone doesn't want both cheese and meatballs on their pizza, I really don't care. But leave my pizza alone!
Mark 7:14-23, esp. 17-19.
That would be the moral law.
Jesus Christ fulfilled the law.Dietary law begins in Genesis 1, not Leviticus.
Mat_5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
I eat catfish and ham/bacon. Though not together.
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The only dietary laws that should concern Christians is pagan sacrificed animals.
We can not partake of the table of demons, I can tell you what I have seen, but people don’t want to hear it.
It is very serious however.
It’s not trendy or open minded or sophisticated to participate in pagan sacrifice offerings.
It’s a repudiation of your faith and a gate to darkness, you will receive severe punishment for it, and justly so.
We can not partake of the table of demons, I can tell you what I have seen, but people don’t want to hear it.
It is very serious however.
It’s not trendy or open minded or sophisticated to participate in pagan sacrifice offerings.
It’s a repudiation of your faith and a gate to darkness, you will receive severe punishment for it, and justly so.
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GentleGospeller
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Dietary / Health law is merely a subsection of the moral law, for in violation of the dietary / heatlh law is a violation of the moral law (just look at Adam / Eve, to see it):
Php_3:19 Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)
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GentleGospeller
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Yes, Jesus Christ fulfilled the law. So, we are also to do by the Holy Ghost:
Rom_8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Jesus walked after the Spirit. He showed the way (Jhn. 14:6; Psa. 77:13).
No, you cannot ["eat catfish and ham/bacon"], and not be in violation of God's laws in diet / health under morality.
Rom 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.
Rom 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. [see Psa. 40:8].
Body & mind are to be in subjection to God's laws, and that includes diet, under morality.
GentleGospeller
Active Member
Those texts do not say what you claim they do. Be glad to show you from their own context and words as you are ready to receive it.
KenH
Well-Known Member
Salvation is not by works of the law, including what one eats or doesn't eat, per the apostle Paul:
Romans 3:20-28
Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
for all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
to declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
Romans 4:6-8
Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, saying,
Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven,
And whose sins are covered.
Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
No. The Old Covenant had to pass away (it had to be fulfilled, canceled, nailed to the tree) in order for the New Covenant to come.
Also, the Old Covenant was a Covenant between God and a very specific population (Israel) for a very specific time (from the goving through Moses until it's fulfillment in Christ) and a very specific purpose (to "keep" a nation...Israel...until the time the Promise came).
One popular dish among the Apostolic and Early Church was roasted pork with herbs. This, obvioisly, excluded many Jewish Christians.
And even this is questionable as Paul was speaking directly on this topic (meat and wine sacrificed to gods) when he said the one with "stronger faith" who partook of the food and drink needed to be mindful of the conscience of those with "weaker faith", that it is not wrong to eat meat sacrificed to gods or to abstain (but it is wrong to violate or cause another to violate their conscious in so doing).
Mark 7:18-19. 'So He said to them, ""Are you thus without understanding also? Do you not perceive that whatever enters a man from outside cannot defile him, because it does not enter his heart but his stomach, and is eliminated, thus purifying all foods?" And He said, "What comes out of a man , that defiles him."'
Sitting in an Indian restaurant and eating halal meat cannot harm you, but once I was eating at such a restaurant with a Moslem business associate, and the menu indicated that all the meat was halal so I deemed it right to eat the fish, not for my sake, but for his (1 Cor. 10:25-30).