Was Cain the first baby ever born?

[Salty]

Genesis 4 tells us that Cain was born to Adam and Eve.
But was Cain actually the first baby ever born?
We do know in Gen 5 that Adam was about 130 when Seth was born.
We also know that there were many other people on the Earth after the murder of Able.

Therefore their is the possibility that children were born before Cain - so when it came time that
Cain was on the run - that there may have been several generations.....

Thougths


BONUS Question:
Were Cain and Able twins?

 

[kyredneck]

Thougths

If so, the first child born was a child of the Devil.

 

[Ben1445]

If so, the first child born was a child of the Devil.

It should not be surprising, that the first recreation of man was corrupted.

 

[Ben1445]

Genesis 4 tells us that Cain was born to Adam and Eve.
But was Cain actually the first baby ever born?
We do know in Gen 5 that Adam was about 130 when Seth was born.
We also know that there were many other people on the Earth after the murder of Able.

Therefore their is the possibility that children were born before Cain - so when it came time that
Cain was on the run - that there may have been several generations.....

Thougths


BONUS Question:
Were Cain and Able twins?

Let Cain and Abel be the first two born, it doesn’t mean that nobody else had yet been born when Genesis 4 became history. But what if there were only 4 people on the earth and Cain adjusted it to 3, does that make any difference?
I’m of the opinion that Cain is the firstborn son, and that when Eve named him saying she had gotten a man from the Lord, she was looking at the potential of the Promised Seed. Had she previous children/specifically male, why would Cain get such recognition in his name?

And the way Scripture reads, it appears to me that there was space enough to sound like they are not twins.

 

[kyredneck]

And the way Scripture reads, it appears to me that there was space enough to sound like they are not twins.

Agree

 

[Kai]

God's very first command to humanity was to be fruitful and multiply, which is why I believe Cain wasn't actually the first baby born into the world but rather is the first recorded account of human birth in Scripture.

 

[Ben1445]

God's very first command to humanity was to be fruitful and multiply, which is why I believe Cain wasn't actually the first baby born into the world but rather is the first recorded account of human birth in Scripture.

I lean towards the idea that Cain is the type of the first Adam and Abel the type of the Second.
Abel is killed by sinful humanity and is a type of the death of Christ, the Shepherd. Because Abel is only a type, it requires a replacement for a type since Abel was not resurrected.
Seth is that promised seed.

“And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.”

If there were other children, born before the fall, it would seem most likely that the Seed would come through these.

I personally lean towards Adam’s household being filled with girls and the birth of a man being significant in their family.

We talk about robbing the cradle now a days, but when you live for hundreds of years, age is not likely to be as big of a deal in marriage. I suspect that they still waited for children to reach maturity before marriage.

Because of the typology, I lean towards Cain, Abel, and Seth being first second and third born males. I don’t have any other weight to throw behind it but my leanings because of typology. I can see where there could be others after the fall unmentioned.
I don’t see any reason to believe that any were born before the fall.
With a minimum of nine months before their first child, I don’t see any lack of time for the opportunity to sin.

 

[Salty]

Just to clarify - I am NOT suggesting that Cain was born BEFORE the fall!

 

[kyredneck]

I lean towards the idea that Cain is the type of the first Adam and Abel the type of the Second.
Abel is killed by sinful humanity and is a type of the death of Christ, the Shepherd. Because Abel is only a type, it requires a replacement for a type since Abel was not resurrected.
Seth is that promised seed.

Close, but no cigar. Christ died for 'sinful humanity', but it was the Serpent, through his seed, that bruised the Savior, not 'sinful humanity'. A.W. Pink, the master of types, from 'Gleanings in Genesis', while he was still yet a Dispensationalist:

"Now all these things happened unto them for types; and they are written for our admonition" (1 Cor. 10:11).

"Abel is a striking type of Christ, and his murder by Cain was a remarkable foreshadowment of our Lord’s rejection and crucifixion by the Jews. At least thirty-five points of resemblance can be traced here between type and antitype. In considering Abel as a type of our Lord, it is to be noted that, like Isaac, offered up on the altar and the ram caught in a thicket, which afterwards took his place in death, we have here a double type also. Both Abel and the offering which he brought pointed to the Lord Jesus.”

36 similarities itemized:

Abel was a shepherd (Gen. 4:2)
Our Lord is a "shepherd"—the Good Shepherd—

It was as a shepherd that Abel presented his offering unto God
It was as the Shepherd He presented His offering to God (John 10:11)

Though giving no cause for it, he was hated by his brother. Cain was jealous of his brother.
Though giving no cause for it, Christ was hated by His brethren according to the flesh (John 15:25).

It was out of "envy" that Cain slew he slew Abel.
It was through "envy" that Christ was delivered up to be crucified (Matthew 27:18).

Abel then did not die a natural death.
Our Lord did not die a natural death. He was "slain" by wicked hands (Acts 2:23).

Abel met with a violent end at the hand of his own brother.
Christ was crucified by "The House of Israel" (Acts 2:36), His own brethren according to the flesh.

After his death God declared that Abel’s blood "cried" unto Him, and severe punishment was meted out upon his murderer.
After His death our Lord’s murderers were severely punished by God (Mark 12:9)

Abel presented an offering "unto God" (Heb. 11:4).
The Lord Jesus presented an offering "to God" (Eph. 5:2).

That the offering which Abel presented was "the firstlings of his flock": in other words, a "lamb."
The offering Christ presented was Himself—a "Lamb" (1 Pet. 1:19).

In bringing his offering "by faith," Abel honored and magnified the Will and Word of the Lord.
In presenting Himself as an offering He honored and magnified the Will and Word of God (Heb. 10:7-9).

The offering which Abel presented is described as an "excellent" one (Heb. 11:4).
The offering Christ presented was an "excellent" one—it was a "sweet smelling savor" (Eph. 5:2).

God had "respect unto Abel and to his offering": in other words, He accepted them.
God accepted Christ's offering: the proof of this is seen in the fact that He is now seated at God’s right hand (Heb. 10:12).

In the presentation of his offering Abel "obtained witness that he was righteous" (Heb. 11:4).
While presenting Himself on the Cross as an offering to God, Christ "obtained witness that He was righteous "—the centurion crying, "Certainly this was a righteous man" (Luke 23:47).

After Abel had presented his offering, God publicly "testified" His acceptance of it.
God publicly testified His acceptance of Christ’s offering by raising Him from the dead (Acts 2:32).

Abel’s offering still "speaks" to God—"By it he being dead yet speaketh."
Christ’s offering now "speaks" to God (Heb. 12:24).
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Just as Abel and his offering are, at every point, a wonderful type of Christ and His offering, so Cain, who slew Abel, prefigures the Jews, who crucified their Messiah.

Cain was "a tiller of the ground" (Gen. 4:2). Thus the first thing told us about him connects him with the land.
The first thing which is conspicuous about the Jews was that they were the people of a land the promised land, the Holy Land (Gen. 13:15).

In refusing to bring the required lamb, Cain rejected the offering which God’s grace had provided.
In refusing the Lamb of God (John 1:11) the Jews rejected the offering which God’s grace had provided.

In his self-righteousness Cain brought an offering of his own choosing.
The apostle Paul declares that the Jews were "ignorant of God’s righteousness and going about to establish their own righteousness" (Rom. 10:3).

The offering he brought was the product of his own labors.
The Jews rested upon their own obedience to God’s Law (Rom. 9:21).

This offering was rejected by God.
But God had no respect to the Jew's works (Acts 13:39).

It was Cain’s God-given privilege to rule over his brother (Gen. 4:7).
Had Israel walked in God’s statutes they would have been the head of the nations (Deut. 28:13).

Cain forfeited his God-given privilege to rule over his brother.
But through sin the Jews forfeited the place and privilege (Isa. 9:14).

Being envious of Abel, Cain wickedly slew him.
It was the Jews who crucified the Christ of God (Acts 5:30).

God charged Cain with his crime.
God charged the Jews with their crime (Acts 2:22, 23).

God told Cain that Abel’s blood cried for vengeance.
Christ’s blood is now judicially resting "upon" the Jews (Matthew 27:25).

Because of the shedding of his brother’s blood, God’s curse fell upon Cain.
Because of the crucifixion of their Messiah, God’s curse fell upon Israel (Jer. 24:9)

Part of Cain's punishment consisted in the ground becoming barren to him (Gen. 4:12).
Part of the curse which God threatened of old to bring upon Israel was the barrenness of their land—"desolate" (Lev. 26:34, 35).

Further, Cain was to be a fugitive and vagabond in the earth.
The Jew has been an age-long wanderer in the earth (Deut. 28:65).

Cain acknowledged that his punishment was greater than he could bear.
Israel will yet acknowledge their punishment is greater than they can bear (Zech.12:10).

Because of his sin, he was "driven out" (Gen. 4:14).
Forty years after the Crucifixion, Israel was driven out of Palestine.

Because of his sin, he was hidden from God’s face.
Since the Crucifiction, God’s face has been hid from the Jews. (Hosea 1:9).

Every man’s hand was now against Cain (Gen. 4:14).
For nigh 2,000 years, almost every man’s hand has been against the Jew (Deut. 28:66).

God set a mark upon him (Gen. 4:15).
A mark of identification has been placed upon the Jew so that he can be recognized anywhere.

God declared that He would visit with a sevenfold vengeance those who slew Cain.
God’s special curse has always rested on those who have cursed Israel (Gen. 12:3).

Cain left the land and went and dwelt in a city (Gen. 4:17).
For the most part, even to this day, the Jews continue to congregate in large cities.

“Upon what ground can we account for this remarkable agreement between type and antitype? The only possible explanation lies in the supernatural inspiration of the Old Testament Scriptures. The Holy Spirit "moved" the writer of Genesis. Only He who knew the end from the beginning could have foreshadowed so accurately and minutely that which came to pass thousands of years afterwards. Prophecy, either in direct utterance or in symbolic type, is the Divine autograph upon the sacred page. May God continue to strengthen our faith in the divinity, the authority and the absolute sufficiency of the Holy Oracles.”

 

[Ben1445]

Close, but no cigar. Christ died for 'sinful humanity', but it was the Serpent, through his seed, that bruised the Savior, not 'sinful humanity'. A.W. Pink, the master of types, from 'Gleanings in Genesis', while he was still yet a Dispensationalist:

"Now all these things happened unto them for types; and they are written for our admonition" (1 Cor. 10:11).

"Abel is a striking type of Christ, and his murder by Cain was a remarkable foreshadowment of our Lord’s rejection and crucifixion by the Jews. At least thirty-five points of resemblance can be traced here between type and antitype. In considering Abel as a type of our Lord, it is to be noted that, like Isaac, offered up on the altar and the ram caught in a thicket, which afterwards took his place in death, we have here a double type also. Both Abel and the offering which he brought pointed to the Lord Jesus.”

The difference between Isaac and Abel is that Isaac was resurrected without dying and Abel died without resurrecting though the types are not without bridges for the teaching.

I recognize that Dayan bruised the heal, but they were people who crucified Jesus and it was for our sin that Jesus was crucified.

I think that you are nitpicking here because I didn’t take the time to write a book. Pink is making distinctions that are not there. He’s children of the serpent are sinful humanity. They are certainly not righteous.

 

[kyredneck]

He’s children of the serpent are sinful humanity.

Ohhh, NEVER your precious Jews! Eh?

The Scripture makes no bones about who killed Christ:

1 Thess 2
14 For ye, brethren, became imitators of the churches of God which are in Judaea in Christ Jesus: for ye also suffered the same things of your own countrymen, even as they did of the Jews;
15 who both killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets, and drove out us, and pleased not God, and are contrary to all men;

Acts 2:
…. they were all filled with the Holy Spirit, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance…Ye men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth… ye by the hand of lawless men did crucify and slay…God hath made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom ye crucified. Acts 2:4,22,23,36

Acts 3:
…Peter… answered unto the people, Ye men of Israel… his Servant Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied before the face of Pilate, when he had determined to release him… ye denied the Holy and Righteous One, and asked for a murderer to be granted unto you, and killed the Prince of life… whereof we are witnesses. Acts 3:12-15

Acts 4:
…Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit, said unto them, Ye rulers of the people, and elders… be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified… Acts 4:8,10

Acts 5:
… they set them before the council…. ye have filled Jerusalem with your teaching, and intend to bring this man`s blood upon us…. Peter and the apostles answered and said… The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew, hanging him on a tree… we are witnesses of these things; and so is the Holy Spirit Acts 5:27,28,29,30,32

Acts 6 & 7:
…there arose certain of them that were of the synagogue called the synagogue of the Libertines, and of the Cyrenians, and of the Alexandrians, and of them of Cilicia and Asia, disputing with Stephen. And they were not able to withstand the wisdom and the Spirit by which he spake….Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Spirit: as your fathers did, so do ye. Which of the prophets did not your fathers persecute? and they killed them that showed before of the coming of the Righteous One; of whom ye have now become betrayers and murderers; Acts 6:9,10; Acts 7:51,52

Acts 10:
…we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the country of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom also they slew, hanging him on a tree…. Him God raised up the third day, and gave him to be made manifest, not to all the people, but unto witnesses that were chosen before of God, even to us, who ate and drank with him after he rose from the dead. And he charged us to preach unto the people, and to testify that this is he who is ordained of God to be the Judge of the living and the dead. Acts 10: 39-42

Acts 13:
…Paul stood up, and beckoning with the hand said, Men of Israel, and ye that fear God, hearken…they that dwell in Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they knew him not, nor the voices of the prophets which are read every sabbath, fulfilled them by condemning him. And though they found no cause of death in him, yet asked they of Pilate that he should be slain. And when they had fulfilled all things that were written of him, they took him down from the tree, and laid him in a tomb. But God raised him from the dead: and he was seen for many days of them that came up with him from Galilee to Jerusalem, who are now his witnesses unto the people. Acts 13:16,27-31

Mt 27:
25 And all the people answered and said, His blood be on us, and on our children.

AND...The Scripture makes no bones about these being 'the seed of the serpent':

2 saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses seat:
13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye shut the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye enter not in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering in to enter.
14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows` houses, even while for a pretence ye make long prayers: therefore ye shall receive greater condemnation.
33 Ye serpents, ye offspring of vipers, how shall ye escape the judgment of hell?
34 Therefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: some of them shall ye kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute from city to city:
35 that upon you may come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of Abel the righteous unto the blood of Zachariah son of Barachiah, whom ye slew between the sanctuary and the altar.
36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation. Mt 23

3 And the scribes and the Pharisees bring a woman taken in adultery; and having set her in the midst,
13 The Pharisees therefore said unto him, Thou bearest witness of thyself; thy witness is not true.
22 The Jews therefore said, Will he kill himself, that he saith, Whither I go, ye cannot come?
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father it is your will to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and standeth not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father thereof. Jn 8

7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to his baptism, he said unto them, Ye offspring of vipers, who warned you to flee from the wrath to come? Mt 3

70 Jesus answered them, Did not I choose you the twelve, and one of you is a devil?
71 Now he spake of Judas the son of Simon Iscariot, for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve. Jn 6

 

[Ben1445]

Ohhh, NEVER your precious Jews! Eh?

The Scripture makes no bones about who killed Christ:

1 Thess 2
14 For ye, brethren, became imitators of the churches of God which are in Judaea in Christ Jesus: for ye also suffered the same things of your own countrymen, even as they did of the Jews;
15 who both killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets, and drove out us, and pleased not God, and are contrary to all men;

Acts 2:
…. they were all filled with the Holy Spirit, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance…Ye men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth… ye by the hand of lawless men did crucify and slay…God hath made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom ye crucified. Acts 2:4,22,23,36

Acts 3:
…Peter… answered unto the people, Ye men of Israel… his Servant Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied before the face of Pilate, when he had determined to release him… ye denied the Holy and Righteous One, and asked for a murderer to be granted unto you, and killed the Prince of life… whereof we are witnesses. Acts 3:12-15

Acts 4:
…Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit, said unto them, Ye rulers of the people, and elders… be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified… Acts 4:8,10

Acts 5:
… they set them before the council…. ye have filled Jerusalem with your teaching, and intend to bring this man`s blood upon us…. Peter and the apostles answered and said… The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew, hanging him on a tree… we are witnesses of these things; and so is the Holy Spirit Acts 5:27,28,29,30,32

Acts 6 & 7:
…there arose certain of them that were of the synagogue called the synagogue of the Libertines, and of the Cyrenians, and of the Alexandrians, and of them of Cilicia and Asia, disputing with Stephen. And they were not able to withstand the wisdom and the Spirit by which he spake….Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Spirit: as your fathers did, so do ye. Which of the prophets did not your fathers persecute? and they killed them that showed before of the coming of the Righteous One; of whom ye have now become betrayers and murderers; Acts 6:9,10; Acts 7:51,52

Acts 10:
…we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the country of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom also they slew, hanging him on a tree…. Him God raised up the third day, and gave him to be made manifest, not to all the people, but unto witnesses that were chosen before of God, even to us, who ate and drank with him after he rose from the dead. And he charged us to preach unto the people, and to testify that this is he who is ordained of God to be the Judge of the living and the dead. Acts 10: 39-42

Acts 13:
…Paul stood up, and beckoning with the hand said, Men of Israel, and ye that fear God, hearken…they that dwell in Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they knew him not, nor the voices of the prophets which are read every sabbath, fulfilled them by condemning him. And though they found no cause of death in him, yet asked they of Pilate that he should be slain. And when they had fulfilled all things that were written of him, they took him down from the tree, and laid him in a tomb. But God raised him from the dead: and he was seen for many days of them that came up with him from Galilee to Jerusalem, who are now his witnesses unto the people. Acts 13:16,27-31

Mt 27:
25 And all the people answered and said, His blood be on us, and on our children.

AND...The Scripture makes no bones about these being 'the seed of the serpent':

2 saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses seat:
13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye shut the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye enter not in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering in to enter.
14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows` houses, even while for a pretence ye make long prayers: therefore ye shall receive greater condemnation.
33 Ye serpents, ye offspring of vipers, how shall ye escape the judgment of hell?
34 Therefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: some of them shall ye kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute from city to city:
35 that upon you may come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of Abel the righteous unto the blood of Zachariah son of Barachiah, whom ye slew between the sanctuary and the altar.
36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation. Mt 23

3 And the scribes and the Pharisees bring a woman taken in adultery; and having set her in the midst,
13 The Pharisees therefore said unto him, Thou bearest witness of thyself; thy witness is not true.
22 The Jews therefore said, Will he kill himself, that he saith, Whither I go, ye cannot come?
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father it is your will to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and standeth not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father thereof. Jn 8

7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to his baptism, he said unto them, Ye offspring of vipers, who warned you to flee from the wrath to come? Mt 3

70 Jesus answered them, Did not I choose you the twelve, and one of you is a devil?
71 Now he spake of Judas the son of Simon Iscariot, for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve. Jn 6

You are guiltless?? Jesus was not there because of your sin?
Only the Jews may have the devil as their father?
Doubtless you would have shown up Peter and been crucified right next to Jesus in solidarity.

No. It isn’t about the Jews. Abel was not a Jew. There were no Jews in the garden. I know how happy that makes you.

 

[kyredneck]

You are guiltless??

Of His murder? Absolutely.

Jesus was not there because of your sin?

I hope so. "it is He that shall save His people from their sins".

Only the Jews may have the devil as their father?

Children of the devil cannot believe, Jew or non-Jew.

Doubtless you would have shown up Peter and been crucified right next to Jesus in solidarity.

No. It isn’t about the Jews. Abel was not a Jew. There were no Jews in the garden. I know how happy that makes you.

Doubtless you are a smart aleck in real life.

 

[Ben1445]

Children of the devil cannot believe.

Children of the devil are not believing.

1 Corinthians 6:11
And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

Doubtless you are a smart aleck in real life.

You’re smart as a whip.

I could never convince you that the word gullible is not in the dictionary.
Smart aleck when directed to you. Satire when you give it. I see how you are.
But I am probably not as much a smart aleck as you just don’t like what I say.
You can’t hate the Jews and understand Romans 11 very well.
It isn’t about ethnicity at all.

Acts 17:26
And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;

We are all alike. It is about the promises of God which you are grafted into unnaturally if the Lord has saved you.

 

[Salty]

ADMIN NOTE: OKAY - lets watch the insults!

 

[Ascetic X]

The difference between Isaac and Abel is that Isaac was resurrected without dying and Abel died without resurrecting though the types are not without bridges for the teaching.

Isaac was not literally resurrected, but the Bible describes him as received back figuratively or in a parable from death. Because Isaac was bound for death and spared at the last moment, receiving him back alive was spoken of as a symbolic or parabolic return from the dead. (Hebrews 11:19).

 

[Ben1445]

Isaac was not literally resurrected, but the Bible describes him as received back figuratively or in a parable from death. Because Isaac was bound for death and spared at the last moment, receiving him back alive was spoken of as a symbolic or parabolic return from the dead. (Hebrews 11:19).

Right. Because he did not actually die on the mountain. He could not be actually resurrected. But since he was as good as dead, he is also as good as resurrected in the figure.

 

[Ben1445]

ADMIN NOTE: OKAY - lets watch the insults!

I am sorry if I offended anyone. No insults were intended and none were taken.

 

[kyredneck]

Children of the devil cannot believe, Jew or non-Jew

Children of the devil are not believing.

Children of the devil CANNOT believe because they do not belong to Him.

43 Why do ye not [i]understand my speech? Even because ye cannot hear my word.
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father it is your will to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and standeth not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. In 8

26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep.
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: Jn 10

33 Ye serpents, ye offspring of vipers, how shall ye escape the judgment of [o]hell? Mt 23

 

[Ben1445]

Children of the devil CANNOT believe because they do not belong to Him.

43 Why do ye not [i]understand my speech? Even because ye cannot hear my word.
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father it is your will to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and standeth not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. In 8

26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep.
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: Jn 10

33 Ye serpents, ye offspring of vipers, how shall ye escape the judgment of [o]hell? Mt 23

1 Corinthians 6:11
And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.