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Was Cain the first baby ever born?

Salty

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Genesis 4 tells us that Cain was born to Adam and Eve.
But was Cain actually the first baby ever born?
We do know in Gen 5 that Adam was about 130 when Seth was born.
We also know that there were many other people on the Earth after the murder of Able.

Therefore their is the possibility that children were born before Cain - so when it came time that
Cain was on the run - that there may have been several generations.....

Thougths


BONUS Question:
Were Cain and Able twins?
 

Ben1445

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Genesis 4 tells us that Cain was born to Adam and Eve.
But was Cain actually the first baby ever born?
We do know in Gen 5 that Adam was about 130 when Seth was born.
We also know that there were many other people on the Earth after the murder of Able.

Therefore their is the possibility that children were born before Cain - so when it came time that
Cain was on the run - that there may have been several generations.....

Thougths


BONUS Question:
Were Cain and Able twins?
Let Cain and Abel be the first two born, it doesn’t mean that nobody else had yet been born when Genesis 4 became history. But what if there were only 4 people on the earth and Cain adjusted it to 3, does that make any difference?
I’m of the opinion that Cain is the firstborn son, and that when Eve named him saying she had gotten a man from the Lord, she was looking at the potential of the Promised Seed. Had she previous children/specifically male, why would Cain get such recognition in his name?

And the way Scripture reads, it appears to me that there was space enough to sound like they are not twins.
 

Kai

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God's very first command to humanity was to be fruitful and multiply, which is why I believe Cain wasn't actually the first baby born into the world but rather is the first recorded account of human birth in Scripture.
 

Ben1445

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God's very first command to humanity was to be fruitful and multiply, which is why I believe Cain wasn't actually the first baby born into the world but rather is the first recorded account of human birth in Scripture.
I lean towards the idea that Cain is the type of the first Adam and Abel the type of the Second.
Abel is killed by sinful humanity and is a type of the death of Christ, the Shepherd. Because Abel is only a type, it requires a replacement for a type since Abel was not resurrected.
Seth is that promised seed.

“And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.”

If there were other children, born before the fall, it would seem most likely that the Seed would come through these.

I personally lean towards Adam’s household being filled with girls and the birth of a man being significant in their family.

We talk about robbing the cradle now a days, but when you live for hundreds of years, age is not likely to be as big of a deal in marriage. I suspect that they still waited for children to reach maturity before marriage.

Because of the typology, I lean towards Cain, Abel, and Seth being first second and third born males. I don’t have any other weight to throw behind it but my leanings because of typology. I can see where there could be others after the fall unmentioned.
I don’t see any reason to believe that any were born before the fall.
With a minimum of nine months before their first child, I don’t see any lack of time for the opportunity to sin.
 

kyredneck

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I lean towards the idea that Cain is the type of the first Adam and Abel the type of the Second.
Abel is killed by sinful humanity and is a type of the death of Christ, the Shepherd. Because Abel is only a type, it requires a replacement for a type since Abel was not resurrected.
Seth is that promised seed.

Close, but no cigar. Christ died for 'sinful humanity', but it was the Serpent, through his seed, that bruised the Savior, not 'sinful humanity'. A.W. Pink, the master of types, from 'Gleanings in Genesis', while he was still yet a Dispensationalist:

"Now all these things happened unto them for types; and they are written for our admonition" (1 Cor. 10:11).

"Abel is a striking type of Christ, and his murder by Cain was a remarkable foreshadowment of our Lord’s rejection and crucifixion by the Jews. At least thirty-five points of resemblance can be traced here between type and antitype. In considering Abel as a type of our Lord, it is to be noted that, like Isaac, offered up on the altar and the ram caught in a thicket, which afterwards took his place in death, we have here a double type also. Both Abel and the offering which he brought pointed to the Lord Jesus.”

36 similarities itemized:

Abel was a shepherd (Gen. 4:2)
Our Lord is a "shepherd"—the Good Shepherd—

It was as a shepherd that Abel presented his offering unto God
It was as the Shepherd He presented His offering to God (John 10:11)

Though giving no cause for it, he was hated by his brother. Cain was jealous of his brother.
Though giving no cause for it, Christ was hated by His brethren according to the flesh (John 15:25).

It was out of "envy" that Cain slew he slew Abel.
It was through "envy" that Christ was delivered up to be crucified (Matthew 27:18).

Abel then did not die a natural death.
Our Lord did not die a natural death. He was "slain" by wicked hands (Acts 2:23).

Abel met with a violent end at the hand of his own brother.
Christ was crucified by "The House of Israel" (Acts 2:36), His own brethren according to the flesh.

After his death God declared that Abel’s blood "cried" unto Him, and severe punishment was meted out upon his murderer.
After His death our Lord’s murderers were severely punished by God (Mark 12:9)

Abel presented an offering "unto God" (Heb. 11:4).
The Lord Jesus presented an offering "to God" (Eph. 5:2).

That the offering which Abel presented was "the firstlings of his flock": in other words, a "lamb."
The offering Christ presented was Himself—a "Lamb" (1 Pet. 1:19).

In bringing his offering "by faith," Abel honored and magnified the Will and Word of the Lord.
In presenting Himself as an offering He honored and magnified the Will and Word of God (Heb. 10:7-9).

The offering which Abel presented is described as an "excellent" one (Heb. 11:4).
The offering Christ presented was an "excellent" one—it was a "sweet smelling savor" (Eph. 5:2).

God had "respect unto Abel and to his offering": in other words, He accepted them.
God accepted Christ's offering: the proof of this is seen in the fact that He is now seated at God’s right hand (Heb. 10:12).

In the presentation of his offering Abel "obtained witness that he was righteous" (Heb. 11:4).
While presenting Himself on the Cross as an offering to God, Christ "obtained witness that He was righteous "—the centurion crying, "Certainly this was a righteous man" (Luke 23:47).

After Abel had presented his offering, God publicly "testified" His acceptance of it.
God publicly testified His acceptance of Christ’s offering by raising Him from the dead (Acts 2:32).

Abel’s offering still "speaks" to God—"By it he being dead yet speaketh."
Christ’s offering now "speaks" to God (Heb. 12:24).
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Just as Abel and his offering are, at every point, a wonderful type of Christ and His offering, so Cain, who slew Abel, prefigures the Jews, who crucified their Messiah.

Cain was "a tiller of the ground" (Gen. 4:2). Thus the first thing told us about him connects him with the land.
The first thing which is conspicuous about the Jews was that they were the people of a land the promised land, the Holy Land (Gen. 13:15).

In refusing to bring the required lamb, Cain rejected the offering which God’s grace had provided.
In refusing the Lamb of God (John 1:11) the Jews rejected the offering which God’s grace had provided.

In his self-righteousness Cain brought an offering of his own choosing.
The apostle Paul declares that the Jews were "ignorant of God’s righteousness and going about to establish their own righteousness" (Rom. 10:3).

The offering he brought was the product of his own labors.
The Jews rested upon their own obedience to God’s Law (Rom. 9:21).

This offering was rejected by God.
But God had no respect to the Jew's works (Acts 13:39).

It was Cain’s God-given privilege to rule over his brother (Gen. 4:7).
Had Israel walked in God’s statutes they would have been the head of the nations (Deut. 28:13).

Cain forfeited his God-given privilege to rule over his brother.
But through sin the Jews forfeited the place and privilege (Isa. 9:14).

Being envious of Abel, Cain wickedly slew him.
It was the Jews who crucified the Christ of God (Acts 5:30).

God charged Cain with his crime.
God charged the Jews with their crime (Acts 2:22, 23).

God told Cain that Abel’s blood cried for vengeance.
Christ’s blood is now judicially resting "upon" the Jews (Matthew 27:25).

Because of the shedding of his brother’s blood, God’s curse fell upon Cain.
Because of the crucifixion of their Messiah, God’s curse fell upon Israel (Jer. 24:9)

Part of Cain's punishment consisted in the ground becoming barren to him (Gen. 4:12).
Part of the curse which God threatened of old to bring upon Israel was the barrenness of their land—"desolate" (Lev. 26:34, 35).

Further, Cain was to be a fugitive and vagabond in the earth.
The Jew has been an age-long wanderer in the earth (Deut. 28:65).

Cain acknowledged that his punishment was greater than he could bear.
Israel will yet acknowledge their punishment is greater than they can bear (Zech.12:10).

Because of his sin, he was "driven out" (Gen. 4:14).
Forty years after the Crucifixion, Israel was driven out of Palestine.

Because of his sin, he was hidden from God’s face.
Since the Crucifiction, God’s face has been hid from the Jews. (Hosea 1:9).

Every man’s hand was now against Cain (Gen. 4:14).
For nigh 2,000 years, almost every man’s hand has been against the Jew (Deut. 28:66).

God set a mark upon him (Gen. 4:15).
A mark of identification has been placed upon the Jew so that he can be recognized anywhere.

God declared that He would visit with a sevenfold vengeance those who slew Cain.
God’s special curse has always rested on those who have cursed Israel (Gen. 12:3).

Cain left the land and went and dwelt in a city (Gen. 4:17).
For the most part, even to this day, the Jews continue to congregate in large cities.

“Upon what ground can we account for this remarkable agreement between type and antitype? The only possible explanation lies in the supernatural inspiration of the Old Testament Scriptures. The Holy Spirit "moved" the writer of Genesis. Only He who knew the end from the beginning could have foreshadowed so accurately and minutely that which came to pass thousands of years afterwards. Prophecy, either in direct utterance or in symbolic type, is the Divine autograph upon the sacred page. May God continue to strengthen our faith in the divinity, the authority and the absolute sufficiency of the Holy Oracles.”
 
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