Firing Squad at Ft Hood, Tx

[Ascetic X]

That's ridiculous. If a person is sentenced to prison and then later is found to be innocent, then that person can be released. However, when a person is wrongfully convicted and executed, that person cannot be released if later found to be innocent. Do you see the difference?

The point was made that since some on death row are found innocent, no one should be executed.

Prosecution is not perfect, but the death penalty is biblical.

Numbers 35:31

Moreover ye shall take no payment for the life of a murderer who is deserving of death, but he shall be surely put to death.

Leviticus 24:17

And he that killeth any man shall surely be put to death.

 

[Mikey]

if it is just to execute, then why should the execution be hidden. Shouldn't justice be public, for all to see?

 

[Ascetic X]

if it is just to execute, then why should the execution be hidden. Shouldn't justice be public, for all to see?

Why do you want to see it?

Do you also want to see people living a life sentence via live streaming?

 

[Foxmeister]

The point was made that since some on death row are found innocent, no one should be executed.

Prosecution is not perfect, but the death penalty is biblical.

Numbers 35:31

Moreover ye shall take no payment for the life of a murderer who is deserving of death, but he shall be surely put to death.

Leviticus 24:17

And he that killeth any man shall surely be put to death.

I proved my point that the courts are not always correct when it comes to sentencing someone to death. If the government ruled Christianity to be illegal, would you follow it?

 

[Ascetic X]

I proved my point that the courts are not always correct when it comes to sentencing someone to death. If the government ruled Christianity to be illegal, would you follow it?

I have not said anything about government.

I base the death penalty on scriptures.


Numbers 35:31

Moreover ye shall take no payment for the life of a murderer who is deserving of death, but he shall be surely put to death.

Leviticus 24:17

And he that killeth any man shall surely be put to death.

 

[Mikey]

Why do you want to see it?

Do you also want to see people living a life sentence via live streaming?

Not particularly. But i'm sure there are historic scenarios which we can apply today where it would be understandable for people to see the execution.

Again why should justice be hidden? What about placing people in stocks in the city square? Is that wrong?

 

[Ascetic X]

Not particularly. But i'm sure there are historic scenarios which we can apply today where it would be understandable for people to see the execution.

Again why should justice be hidden? What about placing people in stocks in the city square? Is that wrong?

Why do you want to see people executed, suffering, or humiliated?

Do you want to see videos of believers being tortured for their faith?

What value would that add to your life?

 

[kyredneck]

Please, tell me what possible good can come from shooting this to death man in public?

For those at an impressionable age; “This will happen to you if you do what he did”.

 

[Ascetic X]

For those at an impressionable age; “This will happen to you if you do what he did”.

It will not prevent other jihadists from copycatting, it will likely inspire some of them to be martyrs.

House Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La., said Monday he is concerned that video of the execution of Nidal Hasan, a former Army major sentenced to death for killing 13 people at Fort Hood, Texas, could become "a recruiting tool for future terrorists."

"You know, we've got to think through the policy implications of all that. I wouldn't be watching it if it was aired, but there's a lot of opinions on that," he said.

President Donald Trump reportedly is reconsidering whether to livestream the execution, telling a confidant outside the administration it "might not happen."

Vice President JD Vance, who is Catholic, told reporters last week, "If it's ultimately livestreamed, I'm not going to be watching it."

 

[Foxmeister]

For those at an impressionable age; “This will happen to you if you do what he did”.

It was once believed that public executions would reduce crime, but it didn't.

 

[Ascetic X]

Criminologists note that most violent crimes are committed impulsively, under emotional distress, or under the influence of radical ideologies or psychoactive substances, meaning offenders rarely calculate or consider the possibility of formal retaliatory execution.

 

[Mikey]

Why do you want to see people executed, suffering, or humiliated?

Do you want to see videos of believers being tortured for their faith?

What value would that add to your life?

So you are happy for people to be executed, suffering and humiliated as long as its out of sight?

What does believers tortured for their faith got to with this? What about those believers imprisoned for their faith? - does this now mean your against anyone imprisoned?

 

[Foxmeister]

Criminologists note that most violent crimes are committed impulsively, under emotional distress, or under the influence of radical ideologies or psychoactive substances, meaning offenders rarely calculate or consider the possibility of formal retaliatory execution.

That's why murder is often referred to as a crime of passion.

 

[kyredneck]

It was once believed that public executions would reduce crime, but it didn't.

Criminologists note that most violent crimes are committed impulsively, under emotional distress, or under the influence of radical ideologies or psychoactive substances, meaning offenders rarely calculate or consider the possibility of formal retaliatory execution.

Yea, I was taught that, don't believe it's 100% correct concerning deterrence effect, but the real argument for crime reduction is incapacitation. The one being executed will never commit crime again.

 

[JonC]

It would be interesting to see how many Christians who demand governments execute criminals in the name "justice" demand God's justice for their crimes rather than accepting His mercy.


I understand logical arguments for and against capital punishment. I disagree with capital punishment, but understand the logic.

The problem I have with this topic is too many Christians prefer to express wrath, anger, and vengeance while viewing mercy, reform and grace as weakness.

 

[Foxmeister]

The problem I have with this topic is too many Christians prefer to express wrath, anger, and vengeance while viewing mercy, reform and grace as weakness.

You see that as well with the failed execution attempt on Christa Pike. I was reading an article on that on the Fox News website. There were a lot of hateful comments by some who were calling themselves Christians.

 

[canadyjd]

So, God was unjust to demand life for life, when murder was committed? Is that what you are saying?

No, and intellectually dishonest to even say it.

That is the silent part of your stance.

My “stance” is what Apostle Paul told Timothy in 1 Timothy. I’m following God’s word.

God showed mercy toward Paul, a murderer, as an example that future Christians are to follow.

I notice that when people realize a passage of scripture teaches something they disagree with, they tend to throw up all sorts of silly accusations, and never attempt to address the passage.

Why don’t you address the passage?

Please explain why Paul’s teaching in 1 Timothy doesn’t say what it clearly says?

Peace to you

 

[JonC]

You see that as well with the failed execution attempt on Christa Pike. I was reading an article on that on the Fox News website. There were a lot of hateful comments by some who were calling themselves Christians.

That is the part of this topic that I cannot wrap my head around, and I have seen it for decades. It is blood lust under the guise of justice.

 

[JonC]

It will not prevent other jihadists from copycatting, it will likely inspire some of them to be martyrs.

Not only that, but this kind of public execution is also the type of "justice" these jihadists practice. They execute publicity, offten televised.

It demonstrates their ideology, but should not fit into ours.

 

[Salty]

That's ridiculous. If a person is sentenced to prison and then later is found to be innocent, then that person can be released. However, when a person is wrongfully convicted and executed, that person cannot be released if later found to be innocent. Do you see the difference?

So a man has been in prison for 25 years - then declared innocent - sure he gets out of prison - but he has lost 25 years of life - would he be able to start a family, maybe he wanted to start a business, ect, ect.