Christ's Glory

[JonC]

The sins of God's elect were not transferred to Christ. Christ was not made a sinner. The sins of God's elect were imputed(credited, charged) to Christ and He paid their sin debt; but it was by imputation only, and not the false teaching by some that Christ actually became a sinner.

Likewise, Christ's perfect righteousness was imputed(credited, charged) to God's elect, but was it was by imputation only, and God's elect do not become righteous in themselves. The righteousness imputed to God's elect currently resides in Heaven in Christ Jesus, seated on the right hand of God the Father.

I never heard it taught that Christ became a sinner. I agree that is a false teaching.

Whatever way Christians believe Christ bore our sins is the same way we bear His righteousness.

I believe Jesus told us this way in John 17. The early Christians viewed this as solidarity (our translations use "unity"). Jesus bore our sins, was made sin on our behalf, came in the likeness of sinful flesh, was made like the brethern, and referred to Himself as the Son of Man. This is solidarity or unity. We will be made new creations in Him, we are goreknown in Him, we are predestined to be conformed into His image, we will be perfected in untiy with Him. This is solidarity or unity.

 

[JonC]

What is the ultimate glorification of a man?


John 7:39 states, Jesus was not yet glorified
Christ prayed Father glorify thou me. John 17:5
1 Peter 1:21 states God [?the Father?] gave him glory

The Word became flesh, He emptied Himself, He was made as the brethren, He was made sin for us. Later (in chapter 17) Jesus would pray that the Father glorify Him with the glory He had before the world existed.

The Word became man, be ame flesh amd blood, became one of us, was made sin, became a curse just as all men are a curse. This is God unified with man.

But this is not salvation. Salvation is man unified in Christ, made one with Him just as He is One with the Father. Our glorification is Jesus in us and the Father in Jesus that we may be perfected in unity.

Christ is the ultimate glorification of man.

 

[percho]

The Word became flesh, He emptied Himself, He was made as the brethren, He was made sin for us. Later (in chapter 17) Jesus would pray that the Father glorify Him with the glory He had before the world existed.

The Word became man, be ame flesh amd blood, became one of us, was made sin, became a curse just as all men are a curse. This is God unified with man.

But this is not salvation. Salvation is man unified in Christ, made one with Him just as He is One with the Father. Our glorification is Jesus in us and the Father in Jesus that we may be perfected in unity.

Christ is the ultimate glorification of man.

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and this he said of the Spirit, which those believing in him were about to receive; for not yet was the Holy Spirit, because Jesus was not yet glorified. John 7:39

When was Jesus glorified?

so also the Christ did not glorify himself to become chief priest, but He who spake unto him: 'My Son thou art, I to-day have begotten thee;'
Heb 5:5

Are these speaking of the same glorification?

When did that glorification take place? Is it spoken of in the word of God as of birth?

 

[JonC]

Thanks


and this he said of the Spirit, which those believing in him were about to receive; for not yet was the Holy Spirit, because Jesus was not yet glorified. John 7:39

When was Jesus glorified?

so also the Christ did not glorify himself to become chief priest, but He who spake unto him: 'My Son thou art, I to-day have begotten thee;'
Heb 5:5

Are these speaking of the same glorification?

When did that glorification take place? Is it spoken of in the word of God as of birth?

You are observant, but no, I do not see "glorify" in Heb 5:5 and John 7:39 related.

The reason is Hebrews 5 states that no high priest takes the honor upon himself and Jesus did not take the honor upon Himself (glorify Himself).

The glory of Jesus in John 17 is the glory Jesus had with the Father before Creation. Before Jesus is betrayed He prays that the Father will glorify Him together with the Father with the glory which He had with Him before the world was. This is the glory that we are to have (our glorification).

1. The Father loved Jesus from the foundation of the World (John 17:24)

2. The Father foreknew Jesus from the foundation of the world(1 Pet 1:20)

3. Jesus is the Elect of God (Matt 12:17; 1 Pet 2; Isaiah 42)

4. Jesus was glorified with the glory He had together with the Father before Creation.

We are foreknown in Christ, predestined in Christ, elect in Christ, and will be glorified in Christ. But all of this is "in Christ". It is solidarity or unity (John 17). This is us in Christ and Christ in us. That relationship (being foreknown and loved from the foundation of the world) is the Father foreknowing Christ, loving Christ. We will be one with Christ as He is one with the Father. And our glorification is His glory.