Do You Have Only Half a Savior?

[Ascetic X]

Many Christians think salvation is only being saved from sins.

They are happy to be saved from sins, so they do not go to hell when they die.

But Jesus died on the cross to save us from both sins and sicknesses. Sin and sickness come from the same source, the devil. Sin and sickness are due to the fall of Adam and Eve. Jesus came to destroy the works of the devil. Salvation is for both body and soul.

To believe that Jesus only saves your soul is to believe in only half a savior.

But Jesus is a full savior of both soul and body.

We must never pray for healing with the faith-destroying phrase “if it be Thy will”. God’s will is found in God’s Word. The fact that Jesus healed everybody who came to Him for deliverance from illness, blindness, and other infirmities, “all manner of sickness and disease”, is proof that God’s will is always healing for all.

Jesus never denied healing to anyone due to their being too sinful. The multitudes who flocked to Jesus for healing did not have to pass any tests assessing their spirituality. There were probably all kinds of unseemly sinners in those crowds, even demon-possessed folk.

Deaf, mute, blind, epileptic, self-mutilators, lepers, cripples — they all got healed. No disease was hopeless, fatal, or incurable when people came to Jesus. Even corpses got healed and raised from the dead.

In the gospels, Jesus healed people as much as, or more than, He taught people.

Jesus never said to anyone, “I cannot heal you. Your sickness was given to you by God to humble you and teach you endurance.”

Jesus is still in the business of healing all who come to Him. His healing power, and His merciful will to heal, has not diminished one iota.

Hebrews 13:8

Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.


Christianity must return to what it originally was and is still meant to be — a religion of healing. When a person is sick, injured, or disabled, the first place to go to should be a church, not a hospital.

James 5:14,15

Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:

And the prayer offered in faith will restore the one who is sick. The Lord will raise him up. If he has sinned, he will be forgiven.



The Physically Healing Savior was prophesied in Isaiah.


Isaiah 53

3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.


Look at verse 4 in the Holman Christian Standard Bible:

Yet He Himself bore our sicknesses, and He carried our pains; but we in turn regarded Him stricken, struck down by God, and afflicted.


Look at verse 4 in Young’s Literal Version:

Surely our sicknesses he hath borne, And our pains -- he hath carried them, And we -- we have esteemed him plagued, Smitten of God, and afflicted.



Psalm 103

2 Bless the Lord, O my soul, and forget not all his benefits:

3 Who forgiveth all thine iniquities; who healeth all thy diseases;

4 Who redeemeth thy life from destruction; who crowneth thee with lovingkindness and tender mercies;



Let us grab hold of the truth that Jesus is the God of healing, and trust Him to deliver us, not just from hell, but from mental afflictions and physical illness, too.


3 John 2

Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.

 

[Martin Marprelate]

Jesus never said to anyone, “I cannot heal you. Your sickness was given to you by God to humble you and teach you endurance.”

Jesus is still in the business of healing all who come to Him. His healing power, and His merciful will to heal, has not diminished one iota.

2 Cor. 12:7-10. '"..........My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness." Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.......'

 

[Ascetic X]

2 Cor. 12:7-10. '"..........My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness." Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.......'

You left out the next verse where Paul explains what those infirmities were. They were not sicknesses. They were opposition to his ministry and problems he encountered that made depend on God.

2 Corinthians 12:9,10

Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. 10Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong.

 

[Reynolds]

Many Christians think salvation is only being saved from sins.

They are happy to be saved from sins, so they do not go to hell when they die.

But Jesus died on the cross to save us from both sins and sicknesses. Sin and sickness come from the same source, the devil. Sin and sickness are due to the fall of Adam and Eve. Jesus came to destroy the works of the devil. Salvation is for both body and soul.

To believe that Jesus only saves your soul is to believe in only half a savior.

But Jesus is a full savior of both soul and body.

We must never pray for healing with the faith-destroying phrase “if it be Thy will”. God’s will is found in God’s Word. The fact that Jesus healed everybody who came to Him for deliverance from illness, blindness, and other infirmities, “all manner of sickness and disease”, is proof that God’s will is always healing for all.

Jesus never denied healing to anyone due to their being too sinful. The multitudes who flocked to Jesus for healing did not have to pass any tests assessing their spirituality. There were probably all kinds of unseemly sinners in those crowds, even demon-possessed folk.

Deaf, mute, blind, epileptic, self-mutilators, lepers, cripples — they all got healed. No disease was hopeless, fatal, or incurable when people came to Jesus. Even corpses got healed and raised from the dead.

In the gospels, Jesus healed people as much as, or more than, He taught people.

Jesus never said to anyone, “I cannot heal you. Your sickness was given to you by God to humble you and teach you endurance.”

Jesus is still in the business of healing all who come to Him. His healing power, and His merciful will to heal, has not diminished one iota.

Hebrews 13:8

Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.


Christianity must return to what it originally was and is still meant to be — a religion of healing. When a person is sick, injured, or disabled, the first place to go to should be a church, not a hospital.

James 5:14,15

Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:

And the prayer offered in faith will restore the one who is sick. The Lord will raise him up. If he has sinned, he will be forgiven.



The Physically Healing Savior was prophesied in Isaiah.


Isaiah 53

3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.


Look at verse 4 in the Holman Christian Standard Bible:

Yet He Himself bore our sicknesses, and He carried our pains; but we in turn regarded Him stricken, struck down by God, and afflicted.


Look at verse 4 in Young’s Literal Version:

Surely our sicknesses he hath borne, And our pains -- he hath carried them, And we -- we have esteemed him plagued, Smitten of God, and afflicted.



Psalm 103

2 Bless the Lord, O my soul, and forget not all his benefits:

3 Who forgiveth all thine iniquities; who healeth all thy diseases;

4 Who redeemeth thy life from destruction; who crowneth thee with lovingkindness and tender mercies;



Let us grab hold of the truth that Jesus is the God of healing, and trust Him to deliver us, not just from hell, but from mental afflictions and physical illness, too.


3 John 2

Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.

Why did Paul have to leave Trophimus behind sick?

 

[Van]

You left out the next verse where Paul explains what those infirmities were. They were not sicknesses. They were opposition to his ministry and problems he encountered that made depend on God.

2 Corinthians 12:9,10

Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. 10Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong.

In the verse cited above, 2 Corinthians 12:9, note the word translated as "infirmities." Here in this verse, the word is said to mean hindrances to presenting the gospel. But earlier in the opening post, Jesus heals these infirmities such as deaf, blind, lame. Note that being unwell does hinder our ministry, like a Pastor who cannot continue at the podium due to ill health. And yes, sometimes our weaknesses perfect or complete our contribution to our ministry. When they helped our beloved Pastor from the stage, his message was complete!

 

[Van]

A wonderful demonstration of messaging through infirmity is found in John 11:1-44.

 

[Ascetic X]

Why did Paul have to leave Trophimus behind sick?

One instance of sickness in a Christian does not negate all the many verses about divine healing and Jesus healing all who came to Him.

Paul does NT say why Trophimus was sick. Apparently Trophimus may not have had much instruction in the scriptures and thus did not have sufficient faith to be healed at that time. This is based on many scriptures that deal with specific healings.


Acts 14:9,10

This same one heard Paul speak who, steadfastly beholding him and perceiving that he had faith to be healed,

Said with a loud voice, Stand upright on thy feet. And he leaped and walked.



Mark 5:34

And he said unto her, Daughter, thy faith hath made thee whole; go in peace, and be whole of thy plague.



Mark 10:51,52

So Jesus answered and said to him, "What do you want Me to do for you?" The blind man said to Him, "Rabboni, that I may receive my sight."

Then Jesus said to him, "Go your way; your faith has made you well." And immediately he received his sight and followed Jesus on the road.



Luke 17:17-19

So Jesus answered and said, "Were there not ten cleansed? But where are the nine?

Were there not any found who returned to give glory to God except this foreigner?"

And He said to him, "Arise, go your way. Your faith has made you well."

 

[Ascetic X]

A wonderful demonstration of messaging through infirmity is found in John 11:1-44.

This is the only time that Jesus did not heal someone immediately, but allowed the sickness to end a person’s life, then Jesus did heal him by raising him from the dead.

This one exception does not negate the immediate healing of vast multitudes of people in the gospels, nor does it negate the fact that Jesus bore our sicknesses and our sins on the cross as Isaiah 53 tells us.

It is odd to me that instead of being thrilled and thankful for the many scriptures that promise divine healing, people hunt for loopholes that might justify not trusting Jesus as Divine Healer.

Many pastors and theologians neglect to teach the wonderful blessings of divine healing, perhaps because they do not have sufficient faith to receive it themselves or to minister it to others, as James instructs.


James 5:14,15

Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:

And the prayer offered in faith will restore the one who is sick. The Lord will raise him up. If he has sinned, he will be forgiven.

 

[Reynolds]

One instance of sickness in a Christian does not negate all the many verses about divine healing and Jesus healing all who came to Him.

Paul does NT say why Trophimus was sick. Apparently Trophimus may not have had much instruction in the scriptures and thus did not have sufficient faith to be healed at that time. This is based on many scriptures that deal with specific healings.


Acts 14:9,10

This same one heard Paul speak who, steadfastly beholding him and perceiving that he had faith to be healed,

Said with a loud voice, Stand upright on thy feet. And he leaped and walked.



Mark 5:34

And he said unto her, Daughter, thy faith hath made thee whole; go in peace, and be whole of thy plague.



Mark 10:51,52

So Jesus answered and said to him, "What do you want Me to do for you?" The blind man said to Him, "Rabboni, that I may receive my sight."

Then Jesus said to him, "Go your way; your faith has made you well." And immediately he received his sight and followed Jesus on the road.



Luke 17:17-19

So Jesus answered and said, "Were there not ten cleansed? But where are the nine?

Were there not any found who returned to give glory to God except this foreigner?"

And He said to him, "Arise, go your way. Your faith has made you well."

Why didn't Paul heal Trophimus?
Why did Kenneth Copeland get a pacemaker?
Why is Kenneth Copeland about to have back surgery?

 

[Ascetic X]

Why didn't Paul heal Trophimus?
Why did Kenneth Copeland get a pacemaker?
Why is Kenneth Copeland about to have back surgery?

I already explained why I think Trophimus did not get healed.

Why are you asking a second time?

Don’t you understand how blessings are received?

Why did Jesus heal every sickness and infirmity? Why did He turn no one away?

You bring up some stage preacher, hoping to negate the multitude of verses that promise divine healing and that describe how Jesus healed all who came to Him!

When you need healing some day, I hope you look into Jesus the Healing God, Jehovah Rapha, the Lord Your Physician.

 

[Reynolds]

I already explained why I think Trophimus did not get healed.

Why are you asking a second time?

Don’t you understand how blessings are received?

Why did Jesus heal every sickness and infirmity? Why did He turn no one away?

You bring up some stage preacher, hoping to negate the multitude of verses that promise divine healing and that describe how Jesus healed all who came to Him!

When you need healing some day, I hope you look into Jesus the Healing God, Jehovah Rapha, the Lord Your Physician.

Paul couldn't figure out how to get Trophimus healed? Paul was also sick. He was unable to come to certain churches because of sickness. Christian tradition holds that he had Malaria for an extended time.

 

[Ascetic X]

Paul couldn't figure out how to get Trophimus healed? Paul was also sick. He was unable to come to certain churches because of sickness. Christian tradition holds that he had Malaria for an extended time.

Where does the Bible ever say Paul was sick?

Again you hunt for loopholes to negate the many promises of divine healing.

If you ever get a serious illness, you will want biblical teaching on divine healing. Or you will submit to the bodily attack by the devil and let him win.

Now you ask a 3rd time about Trophimus!

I will repeat my answer.

Apparently Trophimus may not have had much instruction in the scriptures and thus did not have sufficient faith to be healed at that time. This is based on many scriptures that deal with specific healings.


Acts 14:9,10

This same one heard Paul speak who, steadfastly beholding him and perceiving that he had faith to be healed,

Said with a loud voice, Stand upright on thy feet. And he leaped and walked.

 

[Reynolds]

Where does the Bible ever say Paul was sick?

Again you hunt for loopholes to negate the many promises of divine healing.

If you ever get a serious illness, you will want biblical teaching on divine healing. Or you will submit to the bodily attack by the devil and let him win.

Now you ask a 3rd time about Trophimus!

I will repeat my answer.

Apparently Trophimus may not have had much instruction in the scriptures and thus did not have sufficient faith to be healed at that time. This is based on many scriptures that deal with specific healings.


Acts 14:9,10

This same one heard Paul speak who, steadfastly beholding him and perceiving that he had faith to be healed,

Said with a loud voice, Stand upright on thy feet. And he leaped and walked.

Galatians 4:13.

 

[Van]

This is the only time that Jesus did not heal someone immediately, but allowed the sickness to end a person’s life, then Jesus did heal him by raising him from the dead.

This one exception does not negate the immediate healing of vast multitudes of people in the gospels, nor does it negate the fact that Jesus bore our sicknesses and our sins on the cross as Isaiah 53 tells us.

It is odd to me that instead of being thrilled and thankful for the many scriptures that promise divine healing, people hunt for loopholes that might justify not trusting Jesus as Divine Healer.

Many pastors and theologians neglect to teach the wonderful blessings of divine healing, perhaps because they do not have sufficient faith to receive it themselves or to minister it to others, as James instructs.


James 5:14,15

Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:

And the prayer offered in faith will restore the one who is sick. The Lord will raise him up. If he has sinned, he will be forgiven.

The reason this claim of yours is not taught by those who study the bible may be because it is not found in the bible, but only read into it.

For example, James 5:14-15, does NOT teach the gift of healing. How about a prayer offered in accordance with God's will, will restore the one who is sick?

 

[Ascetic X]

Galatians 4:13.

Paul said he had an infirmity or weakness, not necessarily a sickness.

Christians can get sick, for sure. But Jesus is our Healing God, our savior of body and soul.

I have given you an abundance of scriptural evidence of divine healing being promised by God. Be thankful for God being so loving and powerful.

 

[Ascetic X]

For example, James 5:14-15, does NOT teach the gift of healing. How about a prayer offered in accordance with God's will, will restore the one who is sick?

See, you changed what the scriptures actually say: “the prayer offered in faith will restore the one who is sick.”

“A prayer offered in accordance with God’s will “ is not what James 5:14,15 says.

God’s will is always healing for everyone, as proven by Jesus healing all who came to Him.

I cannot understand why any Christian would argue against the abundant promises of God’s divine healing.

Healing is a real blessing. Thank the Lord for it.

 

[Ascetic X]

Christians can become ill, no question about it.

But they also have divine healing promised to them by Jehovah Rapha, the Lord thy Physician.

Some point to Galatians 4:13 and say Paul had an illness. This is possible, even though Paul healed people. But the word “infirmity” does not necessarily mean sickness. Paul was beaten and stoned. He may have been infirm, frail, or weak due to physical assaults by persecutors.

Galatians 4:13

Ye know how through infirmity of the flesh I preached the gospel unto you at the first.

“infirmity” = ἀσθένειαν (astheneian)
Noun - Accusative Feminine Singular
Strong's 769: From asthenes; feebleness; by implication, malady; morally, frailty.

 

[Reynolds]

Paul said he had an infirmity or weakness, not necessarily a sickness.

Christians can get sick, for sure. But Jesus is our Healing God, our savior of body and soul.

I have given you an abundance of scriptural evidence of divine healing being promised by God. Be thankful for God being so loving and powerful.

You have simply regurgitated the WOF talking points.