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Did Mr. Trump Lose The Midterms?

Baptist Believer

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Avoiding the question, Ben1445 decided this was the way to go:
Was he on your ballot?
Obviously not, but the President (the guy YOU voted for and support), publicly told people to pretend he was on the ballot at least 37 times since August 2026.*

Pivoting again to repeat what you want to be an insult, you wrote:
It really is a childish way to vote.
Actually its not.

For Trump, if the Republicans had a good night, he would claim credit and claim a "mandate" for everything he has done and everything he wants to do. If Republicans did poorly, he would claim he wasn't on the ballot and blame the candidates (many of whom he personally selected) for failing to get elected. Its a classic malignant narcissist move. He doesn't have to take responsibility for failure. The only hiccup is that he and his supporters have to convince everyone that Trump told everyone to pretend he was on the ballot. You're doing a fine job of it, but not all of us are brain-damaged.

Beyond that, the midterms ARE a referendum on the Presidency, since Congress is constitutionally-charged with holding the President accountable for his/her actions. The Republican-controlled House and Senate have completely abdicated their constitutional responsibilities, so the public voted them out of office.

There's nothing childish about that. Perhaps you don't understand how the U.S. government works?

I’m happy for you that you feel vindicated.
I don't worry about being "vindicated" before human beings. I worry about being faithful to Christ. As for my feelings, I don't feel vindicated at all. This has never been about me or my "feelings."

You now wind up for the big push to make yourself feel better:
But President Trump is still the President...
Duh.

But he will now either have to try to take over the government with a coup, or face accountability from Congress and potentially the courts.

...and the midterms don’t change that.
You REALLY don't know how things work, or else you are in denial.

So all the complaining has solved nothing.
The election just ended and the newly elected representatives have not been sworn in and seated, so this assessment is ridiculously premature.

And now there is a division in government again and we are going to waste endless money and energy and time on nothing again.
Sounds like you prefer a dictatorship over representative government. There are plenty of places like that in the world if you want to emigrate.

Desperate to continue avoiding the question, you make a false accusation:
But if you want to hate President Trump, there is nothing I can do to stop you.
I don't. I oppose him. But to people who are irrational and can only 'think' with their emotions, I'm sure it feels like hate to you and President Trump.

And to make yourself feel morally superior, you make another false accusation:
Some people are never happy unless they’re angry at someone.
Funny how you never directly answered the question I asked. I guess you want the American public to only pay attention to President Trump when it is convenient to your political/social/religious viewpoints, and not to pay attention to everything else. THAT'S childish.

Facts are important, your feelings are not.

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DOCUMENTATION

*Chronological list of some verified occasions Trump told voters to pretend he was on the ballot

August–November 2026
Date
Speech or interview
Documented wording

Aug. 21
Myrtle Beach, South Carolina — campaign rally
“Pretend, please, that I'm on the ballot.”
August 21, 2026

Aug. 30
Fox News — interview with Trey Gowdy
“Get out and vote, pretend I'm on the ballot.”
August 30, 2026

Sept. 9
Dallas, Texas — Republican National Committee convention
“I'm asking you to pretend that I'm on the ballot. I'm on the ballot.”
September 9, 2026

Sept. 10
Dallas, Texas — closing remarks at RNC convention
“Pretend I'm on the ticket.” Later: “You're gonna pretend I'm on the ballot.”
September 10, 2026

Sept. 17
Virtual telephone rally — Rob Wittman and other Virginia Republicans
“Pretend that I'm on the ballot.” Repeated toward the conclusion.
September 17, 2026

Oct. 2
Mobile, Alabama — campaign rally
“I'm asking you to pretend that I'm on the ballot.”
October 2, 2026

Oct. 3
Vandalia, Ohio — campaign rally
“Please pretend that I'm on the ballot.”
October 3, 2026

Oct. 3
National Republican get-out-the-vote video
“I'm asking you to pretend I'm on the ballot.”
October 3, 2026

Oct. 3
Pennsylvania early-voting video
“I'm asking you to pretend I'm on the ballot.”
October 3, 2026

Oct. 7
San Antonio, Texas — campaign rally
“Pretend that I'm on the ballot.”
October 7, 2026

Oct. 9
Syracuse, New York — campaign rally
“Just pretend I'm on the ballot.”
October 9, 2026

Oct. 10
Clarksville, Tennessee — campaign rally
“Just pretend I'm on the ballot.”
October 10, 2026

Oct. 13
Wasilla, Alaska — campaign rally
“Pretend that I'm on the ballot.”
October 13, 2026

Oct. 15
Virtual telephone rally — Darline Graham, South Carolina
“Just pretend I'm on the ballot.”
October 15, 2026

Oct. 16
Dalton, Georgia — campaign rally
“You have to pretend I'm on the ballot.”
October 16, 2026

Oct. 17
Highland Heights, Kentucky — campaign rally
“Pretend I'm on the ballot. Go out and vote.”
October 17, 2026

Oct. 19
Park City, Kansas — campaign rally
“I'm asking you to pretend, please that I'm on the ballot.”
October 19, 2026

Oct. 20
Greenville, North Carolina — campaign rally
“I'm asking you to pretend that I'm on the ballot.”
October 20, 2026

Oct. 21
Pendleton, South Carolina — campaign rally
“I'm asking you to pretend I'm on the ballot.”
October 21, 2026

Oct. 23
Fort Myers, Florida — campaign rally
“I'm asking you to pretend that I'm on the ballot.”
October 23, 2026

Oct. 24
Perry, Georgia — campaign rally
“What I'm asking you to do is pretend that I'm on the ballot.”
October 24, 2026

Oct. 25
Port Huron, Michigan — campaign rally
“I'm asking you to pretend that I'm on the ballot.”
October 25, 2026

Oct. 27
Lubbock, Texas — campaign rally
“I'm asking you to pretend I'm on the ballot.”
October 27, 2026

Oct. 27
Corpus Christi, Texas — campaign rally
“Now I want you to pretend I'm on the ballot.”
October 27, 2026

Oct. 29
Rock Hill, South Carolina — campaign rally
“Pretend that I'm on the ballot.”
October 29, 2026

Oct. 29
Virtual telephone rally — Kurt Alme and Aaron Flint, Montana
“Go out and pretend I'm on the ballot.”
October 29, 2026

Oct. 31
Virtual telephone rally — Florida Republican candidates
“Pretend that I'm on the ballot.”
October 31, 2026

Oct. 31
Second Florida Republican telephone rally
“I'm asking you to pretend that I'm on the ballot.”
October 31, 2026

Oct. 31
Virtual telephone rally — Ohio Republicans
“Please pretend I'm on the ballot.”
October 31, 2026

Oct. 31
Virtual telephone rally — New York Republicans
“You have to pretend that I'm on the ballot.”
October 31, 2026

Oct. 31
Virtual telephone rally — Michigan Republicans
“I'm also asking you to pretend that I'm on the ballot.”
October 31, 2026

Nov. 1
Dubuque, Iowa — campaign rally
“Pretend I'm on the ballot because, essentially, I am on the ballot.”
November 1, 2026

Nov. 1
Salina, Kansas — campaign rally
“I really want you to pretend I'm on the ballot.”
November 1, 2026

Nov. 2
Virtual telephone rally — Alaska Republicans
“Pretend that I'm on the ballot.”
November 2, 2026 — Trump Archive

Nov. 2
Virtual telephone rally — Louisiana Republicans
“If you could, pretend I'm on the ballot.”
November 2, 2026

Nov. 2
Virtual telephone rally — South Carolina Republicans
“We're going to ask you to pretend I'm on the ballot.”
November 2, 2026

Nov. 2
Fox News — telephone interview with Sean Hannity
“I'm just asking everybody to pretend that I'm on the ballot.”
November 2, 2026
 

Baptist Believer

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AND Pence stood up to Trump - that alone gives him an advantage to the middle of the road voters.
He certainly gets credit for not violating the Constitution at that critical moment when his life was potentially at stake, but up to that crucial point, he went along with Trump.

I prefer candidates who don’t wait until the last moment to develop a spine.
 

Foxmeister

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AND Pence stood up to Trump - that alone gives him an advantage to the middle of the road voters.
He did at that. I think the only reason Trump picked Pence was to appeal to the Christian right. I respected him when he stuck to his guns and stood by the Constitution and let the counting of the electoral college votes happen. I'm wasn't surprised Trump turned on him for following the law.
 

Kai

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You forget that this is the religion of suicide bombers and their goal is subdue the world.

I think that's an overgeneralization. You're taking the actions and ideology of extremists and attributing them to an entire religion and its followers.

There are Muslims who reject terrorism and support religious freedom, just as there are Christians who reject the actions of extremists who have committed violence in the name of Christianity.
 

Logos1560

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Salty

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He certainly gets credit for not violating the Constitution at that critical moment when his life was potentially at stake, but up to that crucial point, he went along with Trump.

I prefer candidates who don’t wait until the last moment to develop a spine.
Keep in mind that the VEEP is (normally) expected to follow his Boss.
In this case the boss went over the line.
 
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