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Jesus Christ is Coming Soon!

Ben1445

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Throughout church history, numerous individuals have predicted that Christ would return, that the saints would be caught up (the rapture), or that the end of the age would occur during their own generation.
One important distinction, especially when studying this from a historical and theological standpoint, is that predicting Christ's Second Coming is not necessarily the same thing as predicting a pretribulation rapture. The modern doctrine of a separate, secret, pretribulational rapture has a much more specific history.
Here is a chronological look at some of the more notable figures.

1. Early church and medieval period​

Person or groupPredictionWhat they expected
MontanusAD 156–172Expected the New Jerusalem to descend near Pepuza in Phrygia.
Hippolytus of RomeAround AD 500Associated the end of the age with chronological calculations based on Scripture.
Beatus of LiébanaAround AD 800Associated the millennium with the fulfillment of biblical chronology.
Various medieval ChristiansAD 1000Expected Christ's millennial reign or the end of the age.
Spiritual FranciscansAround 1260Expected a new age associated with Joachim of Fiore's prophetic chronology.
TaboritesAround 1420Expected apocalyptic judgment and the establishment of Christ's kingdom.
These were generally predictions concerning the end of the age, judgment, or Christ's return—not necessarily a modern pretribulation rapture.

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2. The 1800s: The development of modern rapture expectations​

This is particularly interesting because the nineteenth century saw the development of the modern dispensational understanding of the rapture.
Margaret MacDonald (1830)
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  • A young Scottish woman who reportedly experienced a prophetic vision in 1830.
  • Her vision included ideas about believers being taken before a time of tribulation.
  • Whether her vision influenced the development of John Nelson Darby's theology remains disputed.
Edward Irving and his associates (1832)
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  • Irving and prophetic associates became involved in predictions concerning Christ's return.
  • January 14, 1832, was reportedly identified as the date the Church would be caught up.
  • The prediction failed.
John Nelson Darby (1800–1882)
John Nelson Darby - Father of the Rapture Theory



  • Developed and systematized modern dispensational premillennialism.
  • Taught a pretribulation rapture.
  • Importantly, Darby did not establish a definite date for the rapture.
William Miller (1843–1844)
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  • Initially expected Christ to return between March 21, 1843, and March 21, 1844.
  • His followers subsequently settled on October 22, 1844.
  • When Christ did not return, the movement experienced what became known as the Great Disappointment.

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3. The 1900s: Rapture predictions become increasingly popular​

PersonPredicted dateDetails
Charles Taze Russell1874, 1881, 1914Expected Christ's return; later interpreted 1874 as an invisible return.
Chuck Smith1981Suggested Christ would probably return by 1981.
Edgar C. Whisenant1988Published 88 Reasons Why the Rapture Will Be in 1988.
Edgar C. Whisenant1989Revised his prediction after 1988 passed.
Harold Camping1994Predicted September 6, 1994, as the date of the rapture.

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4. The 2000s and beyond​

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PersonPredicted dateDetails
Harold CampingMay 21, 2011Predicted the rapture and judgment day.
Harold CampingOctober 21, 2011Revised his prediction to this date.
David MeadeSeptember 23, 2017Predicted an apocalyptic event associated with Planet X and biblical prophecy.
Joshua MhlakelaSeptember 23–24, 2025Claimed Jesus had revealed that the rapture would occur on those dates.

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An important historical observation​

There is a major difference between these two developments:
  1. The expectation of Christ's return: Christians have anticipated Christ's return throughout church history.
  2. The modern pretribulation rapture: The teaching that Christ will secretly remove the Church before a future seven-year tribulation became systematized in the nineteenth century, particularly through Darby.
The history of that development is discussed in the Encyclopedia of Christianity and scholarly treatments of millennialism.

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Some useful historical reading​

Given your interest in biblical eschatology, one particularly interesting study would be comparing the failed predictions of the nineteenth and twentieth centuries with the development of dispensationalism.
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Rapture is not an unheard of concept in Scripture. There are several examples in the Bible. Righteous Lot was carried away out of Sodom with his family before judgment. Noah was carried up in the ark above judgment.

Interestingly, in speaking of Lot, Peter says…

2 Peter 2:9
The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:

John was called up after the church letters and shown what was afterwards. He didn’t need to ascend to heaven to be shown something by God.

There is plenty of teaching of rapture in Scripture.
 

SovereignGrace

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Rapture is not an unheard of concept in Scripture. There are several examples in the Bible. Righteous Lot was carried away out of Sodom with his family before judgment. Noah was carried up in the ark above judgment.

Interestingly, in speaking of Lot, Peter says…

2 Peter 2:9
The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:

John was called up after the church letters and shown what was afterwards. He didn’t need to ascend to heaven to be shown something by God.

There is plenty of teaching of rapture in Scripture.
I’ve heard the usage of Noah as proof of a rapture, but for that to fit, the ark would have to have been lifted above the storm and then brought back down to earth after the flood receded for it to be applicable. The ark went through God’s judgment, yet no one human or animal was harmed. Same with Lot and the other examples you listed.

And it was John who was called up, but I think that was a vision and not a bodily ascension. Just like Ezekiel was lifted up by the hair of his head and taken to Jerusalem to witness all the idolatry the priests were committing in Ezekiel 8. And Lot being delivered is no different than believing Jews fleeing to Pella just before Jerusalem and the temple were destroyed in AD 70.
 

SovereignGrace

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Rapture is not an unheard of concept in Scripture. There are several examples in the Bible. Righteous Lot was carried away out of Sodom with his family before judgment. Noah was carried up in the ark above judgment.

Interestingly, in speaking of Lot, Peter says…

2 Peter 2:9
The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:

John was called up after the church letters and shown what was afterwards. He didn’t need to ascend to heaven to be shown something by God.

There is plenty of teaching of rapture in Scripture.
I'm not disputing the rapture as that is taught in the bible. However, I don't think it teaches a pre-trib rapture that is the craze these days. Hey, that rhymes. Even full-Preterists don't deny a rapture, but that it already took place in AD 70.
 

th1bill

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Read the OP title again. He said “Jesus is coming soon!” He made a claim he can no more prove than others erroneously made down throughout history.
So you live your life on the clock of the world? Rockytopva and I live ours according to YHWH's Word. Yashua can be here in the next 2 seconds and that is how we are called to live. We do not have a call to tell the lost He will return some day and not seeing time as eternal is simply not an option while serving the Master.

Rockytopva has not named a date nor did he register a time. Soon is a relative term that here is relative to God's clock.
 

SovereignGrace

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So you live your life on the clock of the world?
This is patently false. Mischaracterize much?

Rockytopva and I live ours according to YHWH's Word.

As do I.

Yashua can be here in the next 2 seconds and that is how we are called to live.

I have never averred anything to the contrary. What I am pushing back against is his statement "Jesus Christ IS coming soon!" He did not say in his statement He could/can be coming soon, but IS coming soon. You've moved the goalposts here. I never stated He could not/would not come soon, but I would never say Jesus IS coming soon, as I [or anyone else for that matter] do not know if that is true. It is a false statement to say it in such a manner.


We do not have a call to tell the lost He will return some day and not seeing time as eternal is simply not an option while serving the Master.

We are to tell the lost He is coming in judgment some time in the future and those who do not look to Jesus in repentance and faith will die eternally lost and reside in the lake of fire for eternity. What we are not to do is tell them He IS coming soon. Maybe He is, maybe He is not, but we have no way of knowing which it is and should not make any claims such as that.

Rockytopva has not named a date nor did he register a time. Soon is a relative term that here is relative to God's clock.

Soon means soon, near, close at hand, &c. It does not mean millennia away.
 
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th1bill

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Soon means soon, near, close at hand, &c. It does not mean millennia away.
He said soon and I likewise. I measure time here and like RTV I measure spiritual matters with YHWH's time. You, by your own proclamation show concern and misunderstanding of his statement that is crystal clear in evangelical circles. Are you a Christian of another vein?
 

SovereignGrace

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He said soon and I likewise. I measure time here and like RTV I measure spiritual matters with YHWH's time. You, by your own proclamation show concern and misunderstanding of his statement that is crystal clear in evangelical circles. Are you a Christian of another vein?
He said Jesus Christ is Coming Soon and he, and no one else, truly knows this as fact. Ppl have been claiming this for centuries, yet the human race is still here, the earth is still spinning around its axis, still rotating around the sun, just like it always has. Phillip Mauro in his Revelation commentary written sometime around 1920 stated the formation of the League of Nations was proof the anti-Christ was soon to be on the scene, so to speak. Yet its been ~106 years and that statement flopped. Hal Lindsey sold over 30 million books and was wrong close to 100% of the time.

Jesus Christ is coming again, that is not up for debate. What is up for the debate is the timing. None can say He is coming soon like none can say He is coming much later. I do not believe the end is close, but I would never say with certainty it is.
 
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