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Sermons On Sovereignty CHS

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Rippon, Apr 17, 2006.

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  1. Rippon

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    Yes, ole' CHS most certainly taught definite atonement.
     
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    Agreed, CHS preached most forcefully on definite redeption.
     
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    This thread is rebuke to a confused poster who wrongly thinks "Spurgeon was conflicted over Calvinism." The poster, more than likely has been deluded by David Cloud and others of the same mindset.
     
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    This is to disabuse the assertions of a poster who claims that Spurgeon did not believe in Limited Atonement, which more correctly can be called Particular Redemption.
     
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    Wise words from Spurgeon the Calvinist who obviously believed in Particular Redemption.
     
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    The above are not the words of a "conflicted Calvinist" whatsoever.
     
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    I expect that most Baptists, if not all, on this BB are one point Calvinists!
     
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    Please expand your thoughts on this. I am not following you.
     
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    :thumbs::thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:
     
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    I saw one person who said he documented it:confused::rolleyes::confused:
     
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    There was a person who was going to lecture everyone on C.H.Spurgeon and how he was not really a cal:laugh:;):(
     
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    DHK likes to try his hand at revisionist history. He vainly attempts to characterize Erasmus and Tyndale as Baptistic, for example.
     
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    Point #5, Perseverance of the Saints, Security of the Believer, or Once Saved Always Saved. This latter is preferred by the One Point Baptists!
     
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    When men are hard-up for an excuse , they are glad to run to the mysteries of God to use them as a veil to cover their faces . O my dear friends , you must know that though God has a chosen people , yet when He commands you to believe in Christ , His having a chosen people , or not having a chosen people cannot excuse you from obedience to the divine command : " Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ , and thou shalt be saved .

    Not very Calvinistic is it?
    Don't make excuses. Simply "believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved."
     
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    You don't read well. His position was not TULIP. He did not believe in a limited atonement. Didn't you read what he said??

    In this post he was simply opposing the doctrine of "falling from grace" that the Arminians believed. If they lost their salvation then "they" were limiting the power of Christ.

    You will find, as in other posts, that "the multitude" that are saved, are not a select group that the Calvinist of today calls the elect, but rather those who have come and believed on Christ. [/FONT]
     
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    Only to one such as yourself with a warped understanding despite more than a decade of corrections that have come your way. You are too hard-headed to accept reproof.
     
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    "We believe in the five great points commonly known as Calvinistic; but we do not regard these points as being barbed shafts which we are to thrust between the ribs of our fellow Christians. We look upon them as being five great lamps which irradiate the cross; or, rather, five bright emanations springing from the glorious covenant of our Triune God, and illustrating the great doctrine of Jesus crucified."
    "...nor do I think we can preach the gospel, unless we base it upon the special and particular redemption of His elect and chosen people which Christ wrought out upon the cross..."


    No, Christ has not made a satisfaction for all or then all would be saved.
    You are one bundle of confusion. What Spurgeon regarded as the elect, is what Calvinists today believe. The elect are His chosen ones --chosen before the foundation of the world. It is this group alone for whom Christ died and made satisfaction for. The scope, design and intent of His cross-work was for them alone. Christ died for the sheep --not the goats. He laid down His life for them alone. He purchased the Chruch with His own blood.
     
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    The contex in which Calvin stated those beliefs of his are everything!
     
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    The Blood Of The Everlasting Covenant was preached by Charles Spurgeon on 9/4/1859. Extracts will follow.

    "But why were certain men the objects of it [the everlasting covenant] and why not others?...It was not the merit of man, it was nothing which God foresaw in us that made him choose many and leave others to go on in their sins. It was nothing in them, it was sovereignty and grace combined that made the divine choice."

    "His sovereignty elected, and his grace distinguished, and immutabiliity decreed. No motive dictated the election of individuals, except a motive in himself of love and of divine sovereignty."

    "The decree is limited, but the good news is as wide as the world."

    "The secret of God, which is to deal with the application, that is restricted to God's chosen ones, but not the message, for that is to be proclaimed to all nations."
     
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    You are facing a barrage of truth DHK. You need to do the right thing and admit the truth. Man-up.

    In the inaugural ceremonies of the Metropolitan Tabernacle Spurgeon personally chose five men to expound the doctrines of Calvinism.

    Human Depravity -- Evan Probert
    Election -- John Bloomfield
    Particular Redemption -- J. A. Spurgeon
    Effectual Calling -- James Smith
    The Final Perseverance of Believers in Christ Jesus -- William O'Neil
     
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