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[saturneptune]

The real survival skill will be defending whatever stashes one may have against those who have nothing to eat.

Cannibalism has been documented among the human kind, given the right circumstances, even among the "civilized".

Where does buying and selling and the mark of the beast come into play?

While the operating temperatures in our SUV's is around 190 F, we probably will not have any fuel to operate the engine. Sunshine can be used to heat stuff, if one knows how. It really does not matter much about serving temperature anyway if one is in survival mode--worms and grubs taste about the same, hot or cold. It is a good idea to boil acorns before consumption--too much tannic acid.

Peace,

Bro. James

You bring up a good point about protecting what we have in a time of total arnarchy. I can only speak for around here. Myself, I only have a few guns and keep enough ammo to protect my family from a break in. However, I know many, many folks in the towns and out in the rural areas that have arsenals in there homes. My guess is if governmental authority broke down, there would be a lot of dead people trying to loot homes in this area of the country. Here, neighbors stick together, and have no qualms about firing on someone threatening their families. I would say the general survival skills around here are better than average. Those who do not know them would be helped by those that do.

 

[Arbo]

I never let my Jeep get below 1/2 tank,...

Why am I not surprised that you drive a Jeep?:thumbs::tongue3:

 

[Oldtimer]

You and I are a whole lot alike in this area. Self reliance is ingrained in me due to my raising. Good post(s), good info you're sharing.

Thank you. Over the years many folks have helped us in ways that we could never return their kindness. "Paying it forward" is a motto that I adopted a while back. Even though I can't repay them, somehow, they'll be credited in heaven when I pass along what they taught to others.

Another aspect to this is the scriptures plainly state we are to prepare in times of plenty for times of famine. Some say not to fret, the Lord will provide. Yes, I agree with that. He has been providing with an equivalent of 7 years of feast. With that we've had the responsibility to prepare for 7 years of famine. Indications are that famine in the land is fast approaching. Its already arrived for many. Yet it seems that the most of the folks are still buying Starbucks specials rather than buying coffee beans and a hand cranked coffee grinder.

Did you know that a Whirley Pop popcorn maker can also be used to roast green coffee beans?
http://www.ineedcoffee.com/02/stovetop/
http://morecoffee.com/search/102411
http://www.burmancoffee.com/equipment/whirleypop.html
http://www.coffee-makers-guide.com/coffee-bean-roaster.html#axzz2CEQ0yFt7 (This one includes a video)

Shelf life of coffee - why green beans are important.
http://ezinearticles.com/?Coffee-Tips---The-Shelf-Life-of-Coffee-Beans&id=4213416
http://chugginmccoffee.hubpages.com/hub/How-To-Determine-Coffee-Bean-Shelf-Life

And, if you run out of coffee.

CONFEDERATE COFFEE SUBSTITUTES Articles from Civil War Newspapers
http://www.uttyler.edu/vbetts/coffee.htm

For more: search keywords: coffee substitutes civil war

 

[Mexdeaf]

Thank you. Over the years many folks have helped us in ways that we could never return their kindness. "Paying it forward" is a motto that I adopted a while back. Even though I can't repay them, somehow, they'll be credited in heaven when I pass along what they taught to others.

Another aspect to this is the scriptures plainly state we are to prepare in times of plenty for times of famine. Some say not to fret, the Lord will provide. Yes, I agree with that. He has been providing with an equivalent of 7 years of feast. With that we've had the responsibility to prepare for 7 years of famine. Indications are that famine in the land is fast approaching. Its already arrived for many. Yet it seems that the most of the folks are still buying Starbucks specials rather than buying coffee beans and a hand cranked coffee grinder.

Did you know that a Whirley Pop popcorn maker can also be used to roast green coffee beans?
http://www.ineedcoffee.com/02/stovetop/
http://morecoffee.com/search/102411
http://www.burmancoffee.com/equipment/whirleypop.html
http://www.coffee-makers-guide.com/coffee-bean-roaster.html#axzz2CEQ0yFt7 (This one includes a video)

Shelf life of coffee - why green beans are important.
http://ezinearticles.com/?Coffee-Tips---The-Shelf-Life-of-Coffee-Beans&id=4213416
http://chugginmccoffee.hubpages.com/hub/How-To-Determine-Coffee-Bean-Shelf-Life

And, if you run out of coffee.

CONFEDERATE COFFEE SUBSTITUTES Articles from Civil War Newspapers
http://www.uttyler.edu/vbetts/coffee.htm

For more: search keywords: coffee substitutes civil war

This is without a doubt one of the most important posts I have ever read on the BB!

Life without coffee is like no life at all!:laugh:

 

[annsni]

Go by the camping section at Wal-Mart. Or order on line.
Campers Coffee Pot : http://www.walmart.com/ip/Stansport-Campers-Coffee-Pot/20920957

No! Don't get that one!! If you are a coffee drinker, make sure you get a good one. Farberware makes the one that we use on the boat and at home. AWESOME coffee.

 

[annsni]

This is without a doubt one of the most important posts I have ever read on the BB!

Life without coffee is like no life at all!:laugh:

After Sandy, that was the cause of all of the lines as soon as anyone could get out. NNE could make their own coffee without power so they braved the downed trees and lines just to get some. Meanwhile, back at the annsni house, we were enjoying a nice hot pot of our own.

 

[LadyEagle]

Why am I not surprised that you drive a Jeep?

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

This is such a GREAT thread - so much knowledge!!! Ya'll are the BEST!! :thumbs:

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

Drink tea - all you need is boiling water

Once you get used to it it does the same as a coffee, but in kind of a gentle, mannerly way

 

[saturneptune]

The sun jar method works great on tea. Eggs can be fried on any warm surface, sometimes even the driveway. All kidding aside, survival skills might be the order of the day soon. In the winter months, one of the easiest things to carry around is a Bic lighter. How many know how to start a fire without matches or a lighter? What about shelter? Using branches and some type of cloth for a tent, a snow cave, a tree pit shelter? In a disaster, debris is often used for make shift shelters. Water is the next thing to find, followed by food. Pray that everyone has a weapon.

First aid and CPR skills are essential.

 

[Oldtimer]

After Sandy, that was the cause of all of the lines as soon as anyone could get out. NNE could make their own coffee without power so they braved the downed trees and lines just to get some. Meanwhile, back at the annsni house, we were enjoying a nice hot pot of our own.

That's exactly why we have a gas stove in the kitchen!

Back in 96, if memory serves, we did all the usual prep work ahead of hurricane Fran. It came through at night and took out the power. I forgot to provide for coffee first thing the the next morning. (camping gear not prepped, fireplace wood wet, etc.) :BangHead:

The morning after Fran, I realized the mistake I'd made. Said that morning, Lord willing, I'd never again be without a way to make a pot of coffee.

BTW, one of the disadvantages of living in a rural area near a small town, there's no where to go to stand in line, when the power is out for the whole community. Thus, another reason to be self-reliance to the degree possible.

 

[Oldtimer]

Drink tea - all you need is boiling water

Once you get used to it it does the same as a coffee, but in kind of a gentle, mannerly way

Maybe for northern folk. Around here it's boiling water followed by ICE. :flower: That's why it's beneficial to have a few large food storage containers, filled with water, in the freezer. (Block ice lasts longer than cubed.)

From a being prepared standpoint, it's good to have a variety of beverage makings on hand. It's a moral booster to have more than plain water on hand. For the short term, instant tea, coffee, cocco, and other powedered drink mixes. For the long haul, separate ingredients that can be combined, as needed, in the case of hot chocolate, for example. Don't combine ingredients prematurely, as some of those ingredients may be needed for another purpose. Instant nonfat dry milk and sugar are two examples.

BTW, I do like a cup of hot tea from time to time. Prefer loose black tea leaves to tea bags, but those are getting harder and harder to find locally. And, sometimes even enjoy some of the tea blends, thus keep a few boxes of those in the pantry too. Along with the fixings for Russian tea.

 

[Oldtimer]

No! Don't get that one!! If you are a coffee drinker, make sure you get a good one. Farberware makes the one that we use on the boat and at home. AWESOME coffee.

Gotta disagree with you to some degree. :laugh:

It's the technique and the coffee, itself, that results in AWESOME coffee. A French press can yield great coffee or coffee that requires loads of cream and sugar to mask the yuck.

The reason why I suggested that particular pot is because it can be used anywhere that heat can be supplied. It'll work on a stove, on a campfire grate or on a propane/charcoal grill. There are no plastic or wooden parts that can't withstand some circumstances. That's the main consideration if buying a pot to make coffee in less than ideal circumstances.

IMO, the best stove top percolater is a good quality enamel pot. It's non reactive to acids. Next best is a good quality stainless steel version. That said, decent coffee can be made in a tin can.

 

[Oldtimer]

The sun jar method works great on tea. Eggs can be fried on any warm surface, sometimes even the driveway. All kidding aside, survival skills might be the order of the day soon. In the winter months, one of the easiest things to carry around is a Bic lighter. How many know how to start a fire without matches or a lighter? What about shelter? Using branches and some type of cloth for a tent, a snow cave, a tree pit shelter? In a disaster, debris is often used for make shift shelters. Water is the next thing to find, followed by food. Pray that everyone has a weapon.

First aid and CPR skills are essential.

A sanitized 2 liter soda bottle, filled with water, and placed on the roof in full sunlight will yield hot water for tea.

Agree with you, everyone should have basic survival skills. We never know when a long list of circumstances can put us in a survival situation. Think about all the natural disasters that have happened over just the last 20 years. Plus there are growing indicators that man-made disasters, here in the US, may become a reality.

Re water: One of the recommendations that I make to folks is to know the location of several natural water sources closest to their homes. If a person can't get to one source, there's another option. Secondly, learn how to make water safe to drink. And to know what water can't be made safe to drink, even when it's distilled. (Some chemicals cannot be removed by this method.) Thirdly, know what non-traditonal (springs, streams) water sources are available in their area. Plants, dew collection, solar stills, etc.

Re: matches or a Bic: It's amazing how many people don't know how to start a fire with these on hand. They don't know how to find/make tinder. Have never heard of charcloth. Never heard of flint and steel or know how to generate a spark from a battery. People have died because they didn't know they had lifesaving resources within arms length. :tear:

 

[kyredneck]

A sanitized 2 liter soda bottle, filled with water, and placed on the roof in full sunlight will yield hot water for tea.

SODIS - Safe drinking water in 6 hours

Solar water disinfection - the SODIS method - is a simple procedure to disinfect drinking water. Contaminated water is filled in a transparent PET-bottle or glass bottle and exposed to the sun for 6 hours. During this time, the UV-radiation of the sun kills diarrhoea-causing pathogens. The SODIS-method helps to prevent diarrhoea and thereby is saving lives of people. This is urgently necessary as still more than 4000 children die every day from the consequences of diarrhoea.

SODIS (abbreviation of Solar Water Disinfection) is an initiative of Eawag. We facilitate the dissemination of the SODIS-method in developing countries. Thereby people in the south get access to safe drinking water and can improve their health in the long term.

 

[annsni]

Maybe for northern folk. Around here it's boiling water followed by ICE. :flower: That's why it's beneficial to have a few large food storage containers, filled with water, in the freezer. (Block ice lasts longer than cubed.)

That's what we did. I moved all of the meat down to the lower shelves in the freezer and packed them in well. Then over the course of a few days, I filled up half gallon to 3/4 gallon containers with water and put them in the freezer. Most gallon water containers that you purchase around here don't have the ability to have a cap put back on securely (they are just the pop on kind and not the screw on kind) but for our sailboat, we buy the Poland Springs bottles that are about 3/4 gallon, are round, stack well and have screw on lids. I had 9 of these in the freezer along with various other containers (mostly juice containers that were plastic and also some Gladware containers that were very large and could hold at least two quarts of water).

I agree with you that larger blocks of ice don't melt as quickly. On our old sailboat, we only had an ice box and we'd buy 3 blocks of ice and a bag of cubes and the bag of cubes would last us about 1/2 a day whereas the blocks would still be there in some form 5 days later. We'd restock the cubes daily (for drinks) but the blocks would only need to be restocked every 3 days.

From a being prepared standpoint, it's good to have a variety of beverage makings on hand. It's a moral booster to have more than plain water on hand. For the short term, instant tea, coffee, cocco, and other powedered drink mixes. For the long haul, separate ingredients that can be combined, as needed, in the case of hot chocolate, for example. Don't combine ingredients prematurely, as some of those ingredients may be needed for another purpose. Instant nonfat dry milk and sugar are two examples.

Yep. Get some good powdered mixes so that at least you can have some variety. Gatorade is very good to have on hand in the summer - and winter as well. The kids would get tired of just water pretty quickly but at least making some Tang or something would change it up for them.

 

[annsni]

Re: matches or a Bic: It's amazing how many people don't know how to start a fire with these on hand. They don't know how to find/make tinder. Have never heard of charcloth. Never heard of flint and steel or know how to generate a spark from a battery. People have died because they didn't know they had lifesaving resources within arms length. :tear:

At the girls' camp that I work at, the girls learn to make a "one match fire" and they get very good at it. We were laughing after the storm about how many of the girls were given the fire duties at their homes because they just knew how to do it!

One tip? If you get clementines in your area in the wood boxes, those boxes are like firestarters. They turn into blow torches as they burn so we always save them, break them in half and use them to start a fire. Best thing ever!

 

[poncho]

Used Swedish Military Stove / Mess Kit

Compact cook set for camping cuisine! Here's a dinner deal for you! This Kit includes a stove base and brass burner, mess kit pans and 6"h. plastic fuel bottle. The Kit comes apart to form 2 pans / cook pots, 8"h., 17" diam. Stove is 6"h., 18" diam. Approx. 2 lbs. overall.

Swedish FireKnife (scroll down page)

The Fire Knife is a joint venture of Mora of Sweden and Light-My-Fire, a Swedish company known for excellent fire steels. At first glance it looks like a variation on the Companion knives, but the pommel holds a fire steel. The spine of the blade is squared off to serve as a scraper for the fire rod. Like all Light My Fire products, the FireSteel works very well indeed. The stainless blade is about 3 3/4" long, 11/16" wide and .078" thick. The pommel locks securely onto the knife, and comes with a lanyard. The handle size is essentially the same as the Companion line, sized for average hands. The knife and sheath only weigh a bit under 4 ounces, so this would be an excellent choice for hikers. It comes in five colors, ranging from an unobtrusive black, to an easy to find international orange. The five colors are black, cyan blue, lime green, red and international orange.

These two items together will help keep you warm inside and out. Purify water, heat up some soup, build a fire and cut up a pigeon (or opossum) for lunch. They are light weight and fit right nice in a bug out bag so they'll be ready to go anytime you are! I've done business with both of these companies over the years and have never had any problems. They are quick and dependable. :thumbs:

I love these "scandi" type blades and have several of them. I keep an older Mora Companion in my bug out bag and have made quite a few "scandi" knives on my own using the Mora and Karesuando blades. These are great blades to work with and field sharpen easily with just a stone, no fancy gadgets required. Here's some tutorials on knife making if you care to try your hand at it. WARNING: If you get one of these knives or blades they are SHARP right out of the box!

 

[poncho]

Almost forgot. Super light weight fire starters can be made by greasing cotton balls with Vaseline. Grease the cotton balls real good then squeeze out all the excess. Store em in a plastic bag in your bug out bag with your "fire knife". When it comes time to start a fire take out a cotton ball rip a small piece off and wrap it around a small dry twig fluff it up good and light it with your fire steel now you got a fairly long burning "match" or put it on some dry tinder and light it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX_jkbItuxg&feature=related

A few cotton balls treated like so will go a long way and they weigh next to nothing and take up practically no space.

Another way to make fire starters is to take some twine and soak it in melted wax. I usually use about 8 or 10 inches of twine wrapped up in a bundle so I can cut about a 2" piece off to use with my cotton ball starters (instead of a twig). Together they'll burn long enough and hot enough to start damp (but not wet) tinder if that's all you got. I always keep the cotton ball and twine starters in a "small-tiods" can along with some fat wood splinters and saw dust.

Originally Posted by Oldtimer
Re: matches or a Bic: It's amazing how many people don't know how to start a fire with these on hand. They don't know how to find/make tinder. Have never heard of charcloth. Never heard of flint and steel or know how to generate a spark from a battery. People have died because they didn't know they had lifesaving resources within arms length. :tear:

Charcloth? Haven't used that in awhile. That's gettin into Bill Tyler territory now. I just fill an old paint can with strips from old blue jeans stick the lid (couple small holes in it) on it and put in the campfire till the cloth turns black. "Runnin Moon, where's my shirt?" :thumbs:

I got some of them buck skinner books from Crazy Crow Trading Post. I forgot all about em til just now. These books are some great investments in outdoor knowledge! Ever hear "every critter has just enough brains to tan it's own hide?" Well, it's true alright!

But in order to tan em you have to catch em first and to do that you need traps. http://www.nwtrappers.com/catalog/

I've run many a trap line back in the day. No one wants to do it anymore though. Believe me when there ain't no hamburger left in the freezer a skillful trapper and his family are going to eat well when everyone else is starving. I never used them fancy store bought lures my brothers and I always made our own from either animal castors or fish/clam oil.

You want to eat when the stores run out of food? Learn to trap critters like racoons. Racoons are every where. There's probably more of em in the city now than in the country too so there's no need to starve in the city if you know how to trap racoons. Racoons have a high fat content and you'll need the fat for cooking and making soap and other things.

 

[LadyEagle]

Racoons? I think I'll stick with canned tuna, corned beef, and peanut butter for awhile, but thanks, poncho. :flower:

 

[poncho]

Racoons? I think I'll stick with canned tuna, corned beef, and peanut butter for awhile, but thanks, poncho. :flower:

You city folks don't know what yer missin.

Besides a live racoon doesn't need refrigeration and it already knows how to hide from all the city folks who'll be looking to raid our pantries and steal our canned tuna, corned beef and peanut butter. When it comes to long term survival it'll be a dog eat dog world out there and this here dog prefers the taste of racoon.

Don't look at it as a racoon, look at as a 15 - 30 pound bag of protein that'll still be around after all the neighborhood pets are long gone.