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Recent content by JD731

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    The Beginning of the Church of Jesus Christ

    Hi Alan, this will be my last post to you on this subject only because I do not want to argue about what a verse says by the words in the text. I have always accepted the Bible by the historic and accepted meaning of the words unless the text demands something else. In the case of Col 1:18 the...
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    The Beginning of the Church of Jesus Christ

    Continuing to advance the subject of the op, the beginning of the church of Jesus Christ, I must say it is disappointing to see so many struggle with this doctrine. Is anyone reading the scriptures? I have quoted Col 1:18 that is clear about the beginning of the church. There is more in this...
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    The Beginning of the Church of Jesus Christ

    Alan, John the Baptist was not a Christian. He baptized Israel. There was no church during his days of ministry. The Christian faith is founded upon the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. That was an event in history post John the Baptist. Your theology is both illogical and...
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    The Beginning of the Church of Jesus Christ

    Filled with the Holy Spirit is not the same thing as being eternally indwelt with the Holy Spirit. If John the Baptist could have been indwelt with the Spirit, so could others. Why do you think Jesus had to die? Thnk!
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    The Beginning of the Church of Jesus Christ

    Thank you Percho, for your comments and thank you for your attention to the words of scripture and understanding that believing them and using reason and logic to know the doctrines of the faith is imperative in understanding them. Having said that, I believe this doctrine is made simple by...
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    The Beginning of the Church of Jesus Christ

    @Alan Dale Gross said: Nothing I see that has been written thus far, has anything to do with the O.P. That's interesting, just how far off all of this is from what the Lord has Revealed about when He Founded His church, but everyone would have to understand what the Lord Taught that He and the...
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    The Beginning of the Church of Jesus Christ

    I am interested in when Jesus founded his church and I see you are too. But you did not say when he founded it in your view.
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    The Beginning of the Church of Jesus Christ

    When did the church begin according to your understanding?
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    The Beginning of the Church of Jesus Christ

    There doesn't appear to be much interest in this topic. When do you teach the church began?
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    Water Baptism

    Israel, the nations, and the church are separate entities but they are not in separate kingdoms. There is one kingdom. When this kingdom is finally established it will have a three dimensional reality. Each of these three entities will have their functions and their place in the kingdom. The...
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    The Beginning of the Church of Jesus Christ

    I take your word for it but I just don't know because I never read the NASB. If all Bibles say the same thing, I wonder why we don't all believe the same thing about the verse? You don't have to answer that because I don't want the thread to be about the Bible issue but about the beginning of...
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    The Beginning of the Church of Jesus Christ

    I don't know what the NASB says but JD731 says the testimony in the KJV is true and can be believed. He also understands that most of the Bible is written in such simple words that it is easy to understand what is stated but for some, if not most, especially Bible translators and those who are...
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    Questions for dispensationalists

    What does the Bible say? You are going to the wrong sources for your answers? Red Heifers and Parenthesis are are subjects for the detractors, not the dispensationalists.
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    The Beginning of the Church of Jesus Christ

    Gentlemen: Let's look at at a prophet giving us the exact order of events that would happen after the resurrection of Jesus Christ. Our Lord Jesus is the prophets and he gives us the order in a parable concerning his marriage to his bride. The church is the bride. Jesus gave this prophecy...
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    The Beginning of the Church of Jesus Christ

    Water Baptism as it Relates to the Trinitarian God and Israel, the son of God.. God the Father - 1 Cor 1:10 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; 2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud...
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