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ky, please allow me to respond to your post by taking your first proof text for your religious distinction. You posted the above verse. My KJV does not have that word "distinction" in it anywhere and I think it is a misrepresentation of the text for your bible to do such. Take a look at this...

I am beginning to think you are playing the "let's be dense" card. I have been continually drawing attention to the trinitarian signature of God in his creation. What do I mean by that? If I have not mentioned that many here are one dimensional in their thinking, then it was an oversight. I even...

Jesus was not born of Adam, he was born of God. He is the promised "seed of the woman" from whom he received his humanity. Because of this, he is the only "begotten" son of God. All other men are born of Adam and are not born of God until they are born again of the Spirit of God, which is a...

Thanks Alan for answering my op. I would like to respond without purposely trying to offend you but I totally do not understand Baptist Bride ideas. What I am referring to as "spiritualizing" is refusing to believe the prophets of the OT and the New regarding Israel. Israel is Jacob. Are you...

Thanks ky for taking time to respond. I have some thoughts on this subject I would like for you to consider because they are important. Emotionalism is not driving my thinking, my intellect is. My being a Christian does not separate me from logic and reason. There is no excuse for a sane person...

Well, election is a different subject and I will start a thread on it later. I will say here that if you are saved, as I have defined salvation in my comments above, you are not saved because you are elect, as election is defined by the Reformed, but you are elect of the Father because you are...

Yes. The definition of being "saved" is the renewal of the image of God, which is trinitarian. This could never be accomplished in the sons of Adam because all his offspring, including you and me, were born in his image, which is soul and body, bi-partite. and have no ability in that condition...

Not Jew and gentile but Israel and the nations and the church, the trinitarian signature. The church is the heavenly part of this kingdom and dwells in a satellite city called New Jerusalem that is described in Re 22. Israel and the nations dwell on the new earth. It is one kingdom, the Kingdom...

Hi ky. Your premise is not true. One must learn to follow the context of the scriptures. The people in Galatia were also mentioned in 1 and 2 Peter as being "strangers." What is that? It is people who are not at home. 1 Peter 1:1 Peter an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered...

Many Baptists believe that as per this thread so far.

FAITH, as God defines it, is not a grace. It is wicked and evil to teach such a doctrine. Faith springs forth from one who has intellect, reason, and will. Without these three things faith cannot occur and neither can sin. That can be proven in the non human world. Animals cannot generate faith...

Does your Baptist denomination teach that Israel and the church of Jesus Christ are the same entity in either and both testaments? I am IFB so my answer to my question is "no," Israel is the people of God with an earth bound destiny while the church is predestined to heavenly glorification and...

Excuse me but I cannot see the wisdom in such non descript affiliations as you have presented in your post. If one must ask what the purpose is, it is probably because there isn't one. It would depend on his reason for quoting it. I am KJV only but I have just recently quoted from the NASB...

Revelation 1:8, I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the "Lord God," which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. ( Modern Version ) As a first response, this name, "Lord God" is a name of our Lord that is first revealed in the OT in the context of his...

Give me a while to try to figure out if that was an answer to my question and I will get back to you. A simple yes or no would have sufficed.

If you believe what you write why aren't you arguing for a perfect Greek text? I am told there are 4 families of manuscripts and different Bibles comes from different texts that are not the same. Scholars and translators do not agree. How do you handle this in the context of perfection?

Who knows when a publisher makes a mistake over hundreds of years. This is why God is so wise in building in a safeguard so the Bible itself provides a way to correct the text. Obviously this could work only for those who have confidence is the words. God has thought of everything.

Thank you for that. It is good for a person to be cut down to size once in a while if he needs it.

Knowing your religious philosophy there will be almost nothing on which we will find agreement, especially the church of Jesus Christ. You are a person who follows those teachings that spiritualizes nearly all the OT scriptures and much of the NT. I, on the other hand, follow a historical...

Just because the scriptures are written and can be read does not mean that God has revealed the truths contained in them. He said "here a little and there a little." Take, for instance, the entire NT scriptures. They are said to reveal "mysteries." What does that mean? It means that things have...