Recent content by Silverhair

Your reaction is just like the little boy that does not like losing the game so stamps his feet and goes home. You can ignore me but you should not ignore the truth. Your view is shown to be illogical by a simple reading of the text.

You just have to keep reading a few more verses Wesley. Joh 17:20 "I do not ask on behalf of these alone, but for those also who believe in Me through their word; Or you could just jump to these ones where John tells what the purpose of his letter was Joh 20:30 Therefore many other signs...

Reply The only time a person is one of the elect is when they are in Christ and that only happens when they have believed in Him. There were no pre-chosen people as some are prone to say. I agree. Again one is only elect when they are in Christ not before. Christians are called chosen or...

If as you say God put His thumb on the scale than you have remove free will. Then it becomes determinism. If Adam did not freely choose to sin or if Joseph's brothers did not freely choose to sell him then God is responsible for them making those choices. And when you say that then you make...

I do not disagree with any of the verses that you referenced. But none of them deny free will do they. Did I say or did the verses I quoted say that man can save himself, NO. Only God can save and He has said that He will save those that believe in Him. But what you struggle with is the...

Why is it not a valid question? If one is already of God {saved} why is faith necessary? It isn't. One's faith would make no difference at all. Christ was not speaking some strange language. The Jews knew exactly what He was saying they just did not accept it. Just as when we tell someone...

According to the bible man has to belief before God will save them.

God has made the first move in various ways. Creation, conviction of sin, even the gospel message. But in the end it is still man that has to respond to those promptings. The fact that God draws all man does not mean that all will respond to that drawing does it. Even those that heard Paul...

So you are saying that God was wrong when He says man can seek Him and find Him. Whether it is OT or NT we are told that we can and are expected to seek God. By what you have said then none of the OT saints were saved as they could not know of the gospel message. God has provided the...

But if you are already of God then what is the necessity of believing? There is none, your faith/believing changes nothing. But that is not what the verse you quoted is in about anyway. Joh 8:47 Whoever belongs to God {those that have trusted Christ} hears the words of God. The reason you...

Either because God determined who would and who would not believe or because each individual freely chose to either believe or to not believe,

What God gave them was the grace to strengthen their faith when under trial. Paul is writing to believers that were suffering for their faith to encourage them. As he wrote in Php 1:27 Only conduct yourselves in a manner worthy of the gospel of Christ, so that whether I come and see you or...

What Isaiah and Paul were saying is that no one seeks God all the time. The bible is clear that we can and are directed to seek God. 1Ch_22:19 Now set your heart and soul to seek the LORD your God. Isa_55:6 Seek the LORD while He may be found; Call upon Him while He is near. Isa_58:2 "Yet...

By your logic we could never make any choices to trust in any information that we are presented. Depraved does not mean unable to think. In fact as we see in scripture God expects us depraved individuals to seek Him and trust in Him. Christ told us to repent and believe the gospel.

Faith is the response of the person to the information/promptings of God. We do not receive trust/faith we have trust/faith in God. It is because we trust/have faith in Christ as our saviour that God saves us.