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BF you are getting really tiring as you are not very original and most certainly not someone I would trust to tell me what the bible says. But you can be forgiven as you do not have a free will with which to make an actual argument, your whole life being determined and all.

@Aaron you are like an old scratched record you just keep making the same noise over and over. For something that your C/R's love to quote it seems you do not even know your own bible Rom 8:28 And we know that God works all things together for the good of those who love Him, who are called...

Did I say he brought the TULIP/DoG into the church, Nope did not. What he brought in was the basis on which you vaulted TULIP/DoG is based. And you should check out what I said KY. But you won't do that as it would shake the foundations of your precious philosophy. You care more about...

We can start here KY. These influential philosophies ‘Stoicism, Neoplatonism, Gnosticism, and Manicheanism’ all gave life to Augustine’s later theology. From the Stoics, there was assumed freedom that was ultimately “hidden within a mere façade of “free will . From the Neoplatonists, a free...

You did say you are a primitive baptist correct? So you hold to the calvinist teachings, TULIP/DoG correct? So if you hold to those views then you are holding to the views that augustine brought into the church from pagan philosophy. So you may not think you hold to pagan philosophy but...

I leave the rewriting to those of the C/R philosophy. And you are right, why would I give credence to a philosophy that is not biblical.

Did I say you were a pagan, NO. What I said is that you hold to the pagan philosophy that augustine brought into the church which is factual. And since I do not alter the writing of the bible I could not be a Pharisee. I will continue to point out the errors of the C/R view as it relates to...

Only if you believe that He also ordains all the sin and evil in the world. Which would then 1] contradict the bible or 2] make Him the ultimate sinner Are you saying that God is the ultimate sinner BF? Your ordained view does.

Still has not changed BF. Still does not say what you want it to say.

Well then it did not succeed did it.

Do you think if you repeat it enough times then it will be true. Sorry BF that will not help you.

Lack of biblical knowledge of the average pew sitter. And preachers that should have spent more time in study and less time talking. I can't call it preaching as that would require that they actually knew the word of God.

What point are you trying to make here BF? I can not help it if Samuel Richardson if he has misunderstood scripture. You can see his error in his own words, "for if he be able to convert himself, or to refuse, so as not to be converted; then conversion is under his own power." 1] we do not...

Prove what I said is wrong KY or apologize for your unwarranted comments. You are not showing a Christian attitude their young fellow.

BF you have got to take of the glasses that are distorting your vision. The people believe BF. Step back a few verses Eph 1:15 For this reason I too, having heard of the faith in the Lord Jesus which exists among you and your love for all the saints, Eph 1:16 do not cease giving thanks...

BF you are not reading the text. His great power toward those who believe. They already believe BF.

What was dishonest KY? It is historical fact what augustine did and it is still the same philosophy that we see coming from the C/R teachings. You say it is dishonest then prove it. Other than that it is just you blowing the same stale wind. Just another anti-Biblical rant on your part

And there it is in clear text BF. You have to add your philosophy to make it work for you. But you have another problem, if God make people believe then why does He not make all people believe as that is His desire? You should stop digging that hole you are in as it just keeps getting deeper.

Note what the verse says BF. Psa 110:3 Your people will volunteer freely in the day of Your power; In holy array, from the womb of the dawn, Your youth are to You as the dew. That is free will BF. How do you not see that. If that is the best you can do then you are woefully short of your...

It is a good thing one does not have to be a member of MENSA as I know I would not make it. I could not have said it better, we are brothers in Christ. It is good to sharped the iron every once in a while. One thing we are not is Indifferent. This quote?? has been credited to Aristotle?? "It...