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Is GW Bush an authentic Christian!?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Jay and Kelly, Nov 20, 2005.

  1. Johnv

    Johnv New Member

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    Yes. The problem is that it's incredibly difficult to incorporate your faith when you're in the political public eye and under constant scrutiny. Goodness, the man can't so much as eat a cheeseburger without someone criticising him for it. It has much less to do with the man in the position, and more to do with the rest of us who, by way of our sinful nature, find ease in our armchair criticism where the repercussions of such criticism are nearly nonexistent. Even if Christ himself were POTUS, we'd still be armchair criticizing. It's normal, but sinful, human nature.
     
  2. Pastor Larry

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    Man, you're so judgmental. How in the world can you be so judgmental? Talk about lacking in compassion and integrity ...
     
  3. chipsgirl

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    It's not for me to decide. Why would you even ask such a question?
     
  4. hillclimber

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    He has a lot more integrity and exhibits Christian values a lot more than some on here. I believe he will do exactly what he says he'll do, and that is a lot more than I can say for any previous administration, save Reagan. If he possibly can, that is.
     
  5. Enoch

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    Yes he is a Christian.
     
  6. Priscilla Ann

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    Pastor Larry:

    It's not up to me to judge George W. Bush. Only God can do that.

    I simply stated my opinion of Bush based on his actions during his five years in the White House.
     
  7. hillclimber

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    You actually based your opinion on the evil rhetoric spewed by the leftists in the Dem. party, and most certainly not on the President's actions.
     
  8. StraightAndNarrow

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    Bush on Religion and God
    President Says He Believes Muslims and Christians Pray to Same God

    Oct. 26, 2004 - While the president often refers to God during public addresses to his supporters, Bush's religious convictions don't always seem to reflect those of the conservative Christians who make up his political base.

    In an exclusive interview with ABC News' Charles Gibson, Bush said he believes that both Christians and Muslims worship the same God.

    "I think we do. We have different routes of getting to the Almighty," Bush said.
     
  9. StraightAndNarrow

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    Bush Unworthy of the Christian Vote
    Reed R. Heustis, Jr.
    October 29, AD 2004
    http://www.reedheustis.com

    I couldn't believe my own ears when I heard it myself. Goosebumps riddled my body, and my blood curdled. Earlier this week on ABC News, our "Christian" President George W. Bush proclaimed in front of a national audience that Christians and Muslims worship "the same god". (To see and view the interview online, please visit: http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/elections/article.adp?id=20041026095909990008)

    Bush also said that Muslims and non-Christians both go to heaven because "we have different routes of getting there."

    These statements are utter rejections of the Truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

    Said Christ, "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." (John 14:6) No genuine Christian would ever proclaim that Muslims and Christians worship the same deity.

    The Book of John says, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." (John 1:1-3)

    This is a clear reference to the Creator God. Later in the same chapter it is revealed, "the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us," which is a reference to the Creator God taking on human shape in the form of Jesus Christ.

    This begs the question, If Muslims worship the same "Creator God", then how can Muslims logically reject Christ's deity?

    It just cannot be said by any stretch of the imagination, unless you're a President attempting to bamboozle Christian voters yet again, that Muslims and Christians worship the same god.

    Mere disagreements on peripheral issues are acceptable. Some Christians believe in infant baptism, while others do not. Many differ in their views of "end times" theology. Some embrace "charismatic" means of worship, while others abide by regulative principles. These issues and others are non-essential in that honest disagreements may occur even amongst saved Bible-believing Christians.

    However, essential Christian doctrine can never be compromised!

    The deity of Jesus Christ is essential, and President Bush not only compromised on this doctrine, but he embraced the demonic view of Universalism, the false belief that all roads lead to God.
     
  10. Priscilla Ann

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    Hillclimber:

    I assure you that my opinions of Bush are my own, based on President Bush's actions. My opinions are not based on the rhetoric of others. I do not need anyone to think for me. (People who need someone to think for them can just watch FOX News.)

    PA
     
  11. Johnv

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    I said it before and I'll say it again. If Christ himself were POTUS, we'd be questioning if he was a real Christian or not. It's our human sinful nature to criticize the elected leaders, regardless of whether it's warranted or not.
     
  12. Debby in Philly

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    Here, here!

    No matter who the president was, Democrat or Republician, or Independent, the media, famous people and just about everybody else would find fault. It's fashionable to complain.
     
  13. RTG

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    Strait and narrow makes some good points,I wonder if someone were making some of the statements on the BB that George W has made to the world if we would be giving them a pass.What do you think his pastor thinks?Where is he getting his counsel?I don't know if he's saved or not,he needs our prayers.GWB's belief's are worthy of debate in light of what he has claimed and said.He's the leader of our country!Our children will read about him.Will it line up?
     
  14. Rocko9

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    One thing is for sure is that George Bush has comprimised his Christian principals for the sake of the Presidency. We know it is true that you cannot serve two masters, the best we can do is to continue in Prayer for our President and ask that he will allow God to lead him instead of giving into worldly ways.
     
  15. MatthewHenry

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    Well, lets go to the Bible...:

    and...

    From Matthew Poole's commentary:

    G.W. Bush possesses NONE of these Fruits.

    'Nuff Said.

    MP
     
  16. Brother James

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    The popes a good christian too.
     
  17. Pastor Larry

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    Many people who actually know Bush apart from the media's spin differ with you. Who is right? Who knows? But to use your limited knowledge and imagination to contradict the man's very clear testimony of faith is misguided at best.

    In the end, we didn't elect him as a Christian, but as a president. I am not saying he is saved. I, just like you, have no idea.
     
  18. LadyEagle

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    It's just a glich. People need to get over it.
     
  19. StraightAndNarrow

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    What Christian principles are you referring to here? That our God and Allah are the same god?
     
  20. Rocko9

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    What Christian principles are you referring to here? That our God and Allah are the same god? </font>[/QUOTE]:confused: :confused: Are they???????????? I didn't think there was such a thing as a real Allah. I do think George Bush knows better than to say that we all worship the same God , and that is where he makes his comprimises.
     
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