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Yes, what I see is the twisting you are doing to try to make "loving thy neighbour" the equivalent of "believing on the name of Jesus Christ", declaring they are one in the same. Huge problem with that...

1) This pov is easily destroyed when tested in real life applications. Simply ask a Jew or a Muslim if they love thy neighbour as thyself, even ask them if they consider all faiths their neighbours. If they say yes, and this is the same as believing on the name of Jesus Christ, then they should also readily say they believe on the name of Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour when presented the Gospel. It would be foolish to embrace love thy neighbour as thyself and at the same time reject the source of this very commandment, Jesus Christ, whom had been revealed in the flesh. So this alone destroys this pov. It would be like saying "yes I believe in the commandment given by God, but I do not believe in God". Silly of course.

2) Jesus made it perfectly clear, "... Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit." The Apostle John speaking on behalf of God added this qualifier..."Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him." (1John5) You cannot say they believe in the name of Jesus Christ simply because they are loving thy neighbour. The Scripture (Not the RCC) declares whosoever is born of God believes on Jesus Christ and loves Jesus Christ. No rebirth = No salvation. If they were born of God they would have the Spirit of Christ in them (Ro 8) and would be confessing Jesus Christ is Lord. This is Bible 101.

3) The Apostle Paul laments over his Jewish brethren for not believing in the name of Jesus Christ, although Paul declares they have a zeal for God and God's commandments...."For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge." (Ro10:2) Many Jews and Muslims have a zeal for God, but they reject the Truth given by God, and that Truth is in His Son and is recorded for all of us in the NT Scriptures, which they reject. Paul does not view them as "saved", in fact he is hoping to save some through his persistent preaching of Jesus Christ to them..."If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them" (Ro11).

4) Loving thy Neighbour is a work of the Law just as obeying any other commandment is. Paul declares..."Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified." (Gal 2) Anyone can obey the Law in some ways, even seemingly very well, however never even close to perfectly. Obeying the Law is NOT the same as believing in the name of Jesus Christ. Jesus makes this perfectly clear as does His disciples.

I could add about a hundred more points and support them with Scripture. This "Good Samaritan" doctrine that is being propagated by the RCC is obviously infecting their followers and is responsible for deceiving multitudes into a false hope. This is why it is false teaching.

You need to reconsider what you have been led to believe brother. It makes absolutely no sense to think one can Love thy Neighbour and say they reject Jesus Christ as the son of God at the same time and still you believe they actually do believe on Jesus Christ and are just fine with God and will be saved. To do this is to be part of their condemnation for not telling them the Truth.

I pray you will see the folly of this false teaching which has taken over your church. Many shall perish because of it. They need to hear the Truth, and receive Jesus Christ, and confess His name or they will not be saved. Loving thy Neighbour is not believing on Jesus Christ by proxy and is not salvation.

 

I don't even see this topic as RCC tradition. This "Good Samaritan" doctrine has crept in just in the past few decades or so. It is a fulfillment of prophecy, the end time conglomeration of religions paving the way for the anti-Christ to step in to lead and unify all faiths. The RCC has no choice but to be part of this simply because of the scope and size of it's influence. But we continue to sound the alarm in hopes to save some from this peril.

 

Romans 10:

(1) "Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.

(2) For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.

(3) For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

(4) For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

(5) For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.

(6) But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above)

(7) Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)

(8) But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach.

(9) That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

(10) For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation".

So the question for our Catholic friends is, what is the word of faith Paul says we preach? How shall one be saved? Does the Word of God line up with the RCC "Good Samaritan" doctrine of salvation which declares a person does NOT have to confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus and does NOT have to believe in their heart God raised Him from the dead? They need only practice the Law and be a good, loving neighbour.

Look at Utilyan's argument thus far. He is arguing that the keeping of the Law is the same as having faith in Jesus Christ. This is a remarkable pov seeing how the NT goes to great lengths to declare the keeping of the Law will not save!

 

I perceive you time is very short here Utilyan. If you believe your heresy will make it far on this board you are sadly mistaken. Those who regularly debate Scripture here are very sound on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Your doctrine is anti-Christ and I pray someday you truly find what it means to be born-again.

 

"I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. (Gal 1:6-7)

I understand how Jesus and Paul felt going up against the Pharisees trying to persuade them that their own righteousnesess was not going to save them. Paul spoke well when he said....

"Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God." (Romans 10)

Your "One does not need to confess Jesus is Lord" gospel is a perversion of the Scriptures Utilyan. I provided numerous passages for you to consider and you dismiss and ignore them all in favor of your perverted, un-biblical theory. Only a move by the Holy Spirit could possibly change your heart, if God has not already turned you over beyond reach. I pray it is not too late for you. Go and learn from the Scriptures what it means to be born-again, it is a must for salvation. Believe Jesus' words, don't let others lead you astray.

 

"I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins". Jesus - (John 8) True or False Utilyan? Satan's idea or Jesus' idea?

 

I have a question for all the Catholic friends who I know are listening to this discussion between Utilyan and myself. Am I learning something new here about what Catholics believe? I did not know Jesus' teaching on confessing His name to be saved was attributed to an idea from satan. I provided numerous Scriptures showing it is Jesus who declared those who reject Him and His name are condemned. Yet Utilyan says this is an idea from satan. Is this the position of all or most Catholics? I ask because I know there are other Catholics here and they are probably watching this thread and none have stepped up to challenge Utilyan on his doctrine on it having no bearing on salvation if one rejects Jesus as Lord, which he claims is 2000 years old in Catholic doctrine. It is shocking to me that he would declare this idea Jesus spoke to be that of satan's.

 

True, Jesus' words. Now tell us all how you have obeyed this law to the perfection demanded by God. Or have you fallen short as the rest of us?

 

It is exactly what you had been saying. I said, and gave scripture, Jesus said you must believe on Him or be condemned. You said this is an idea from satan.

 

It's not a command? Really? It's a matter of fact. If you do not believe He is the Christ, you will die in your sins! And you declare this teaching is from satan.

 

So your process of obeying the Word is to rewrite what Jesus said, and then agree with yourself. Isn't that what Paul said of the Pharisees? "For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God." (Ro 10)