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Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by Agent47, Jan 23, 2017.

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  1. StefanM

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    Limited (i.e. nonexistent).
     
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    Scripture please
     
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    God has choen to bypass the lost, and abandon them to own desires!
     
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    You are assuming hre real free will exists, it does not since the Fall!
     
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    In a world which he created under circumstances that ensured that would completely lack the ability to do otherwise?

    Come on.
     
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    God swings the heat/mind of His elect to freely chooe Him to get saved!
     
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    We are all dead in our trespasses and sins!
     
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    God di cause that state, Adam did!
     
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    by "the lost" you means those whom God has refused to predestine? Scripture please
     
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    Dead means separated from God. This does not support your intent.
     
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    The lost are those who God has passed over for salvation...
     
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    scripture please
     
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    God wanted Adam to sin, or he would have never set the trap.
     
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    Can God want to cause anothr party to sin thn?
     
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    9The true light, which gives light to everyone, was coming into the world. 10He was in the world, and the world was made through him, yet the world did not know him. 11He came to his own,b and his own peoplec did not receive him. 12But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, 13who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.
    Esv John 1:9-13
     
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    Based on the Bible, absolutely.
     
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    Good GOD > Evil GOD
     
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    GOOD SAMARITAN 2.0 Calvinist edition.

    A group of three people get mugged on the way to Jerusalem hurt on side of road. Folks on other side of road see them. Priest does nothing, Preacher does nothing.

    Calvinist Jesus flips a coin and decides today going to help one, He could help all 3, but needs to make a point how glorious he is to the three.
     
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    You do know that is an impossibility even for God to do?
     
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    IMO, that's a theological assumption forced on the text. The Bible itself doesn't have such a neat and tidy portrayal of God that easily fits into that assumption.
     
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