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Or.... start one emphasizing the distintives you believe to be important. Then if you become successful with getting it off the ground, you can experience having other people criticize you.

Brother, what goes around comes around! ​

 

I felt the same way when Penn State removed Coach Paterno' s statue.

 

No, not really. My church uses the 1963 BF&M confession.

That is not supposed to be the purpose of the BF&M. It is not a creed, but a confession. It is directed to outsiders to explain the basic points of view of the majority of the members of our Baptist church. It has only been used as an "instrument of accountability" for certain denominational employees who are not politically secure.

You missed all the discussion, heated language and controversy surrounding the confession nearly 18 years ago. I lived through it and participated in it. What you are looking at are people who generally accept the 2000 BF&M. Many of us don't, and those still hold to the 1963 BF&M.

 

Steven, I must join some of the others in finding your posts to be confusing with little clarity. You have never responded to the scriptures I provided on POTS.

1. I don't think you are an Arminian. It's seems you prefer kind of an eclectic mix. That will always cause some doctrinal problems.

2. No birth control. I can agree it's a real problem if it is a deliberate. Dr. Al Mohler wrote a great article regarding deliberate childlessness:
http://www.albertmohler.com/2005/06/07/deliberate-childlessness-moral-rebellion-with-a-new-face-2/

There are good reasons to limit one's family size. Ever heard of Tay Sach disease?

I am the Director of Music at my church. It's an executive position, but I do not attend the meetings of the Elders.



I hope you will find peace.

 

For the most part, this church rejects women leadership, birth control, charismatic following and is strictly Arminian. It's also KJVO to 'da max.

Caution they do believe in vile words:



He has been banned by at least 6 countries, for hateful rhetoric.

 

Baptists believe in Individual Soul Liberty. Therefore there are probably no 100% alike Baptists. Each Baptist will have his specific quirks and beliefs on secondary issues, however the primary issues (I.E Christ is THE Son of God, He died on the cross for our Sins and is THE only way to Heaven) are what unite Christians in fellowship.

I think you ought certainly define what your own beliefs are on secondary issues, but I would not break fellowship over primary issues.

Ex: I go to a Free Will Baptist Church even though I lean more towards Perseverance of the Saints. The agreement on primary issues, combined with the Bible based teachings, and the fellowship of other Saints makes me stay despite secondary issues.

"Unity in necessary things; liberty in doubtful things; charity in all things"

 

If you are asking, you are probably one foot out the door brother1 I'd say, go, and don't let the door hit you where the where the naturalness of your body split you1

 

Yes, most of us are Calvinistic and Armenians are at times excluded from Ordination because they lack a full understanding of grace. There is no priesthood of the believer at that juncture. Personally I prefer Mr. Wesley as he does not endorse either saying keep on preaching the gospel fellas. When either systems are used it seems to me they end up in the new heresay saying I am saved with no walking in Jesus steps. Keep on preaching the gospel. Jesus saves, Jesus saves.

 

Uh, what?

 

I think even the most zealous 5-point Calvinists in the SBC will readily admit that they are not in the majority, and Armenians (nor Arminians) are excluded from ordination in any systemic way.

Ordination is a local church activity, and I'm sure candidates sometimes are not ordained for doctrinal issues, but I've never heard of anyone being declined ordination for being Armenian or not being a five-point Calvinist.