Bible Scavenger Hunt

I've already posted too much on this but let me ask you again about what Daniel said. You yourself quote Jesus as saying, "“When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place,...."

Now we know the Roman army was in Israel to rape, murder, destroy, steal, and enslave. They razed the Temple. So Jesus said to look out for the abomination of desolation standing in the holy place, according to your quotation. Jesus said that that was what Daniel was talking about. So did the Romans do that, and if so, which one of them?

 

So Jesus was mixed up because He told people to watch out for something that happened 400 years before and when Jesus was talking about the abomination of desolation standing in the holy place (the Holy of Holies), Jesus was just plain wrong because no Roman ever did that in 70 AD?

 

Actually, Jesus defined abomination of desolation as going into the holy place and you yourself quoted it. Now you are saying that Luke is more authoritative than Jesus.

So when exactly did the Romans do this:

Daniel 9:27 (KJV) And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Anyway, Jesus was talking about the Blessed Hope, which you ignore:

Matthew 24:15-27 (KJV) When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here [is] Christ, or there; believe [it] not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Behold, I have told you before. Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, [he is] in the secret chambers; believe [it] not. For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

 

So you don't think that the anti-Christ will be some Brit like Sadiq Khan or Jeremy Corbyn?

 

I did a search on the thread for the obvious answer & got the expected result -
Uh oh! Unfortunately, we couldn't find any results for scofield.

So, NOBODY accused or mentioned Scofield as the originator/promoter of these doctrines.

NOBODY is of course absolutely correct.

In the early years of the 20th century, there were massive attacks on the truth & authority of Scripture, particularly from the German "higher criticism" movement & the Darwinian evolution teaching & other "scientific" attacks aimed at discrediting Scripture.

Scofield came out in support of the inerrancy & authority of Scripture. His one-volume commentary was accepted by the Bible colleges & I understand was free issue to students in the days when multi-volume commentaries were in libraries rather then on students' book shelves. This coincided with the WW1 which freed the Middle East from the Turkish Ottoman Empire & gave support for the rise in Zionism, also supported by the British Balfour Declaration.

The Fundamentalist movement seized on Scofield for support for the truth of Scripture & his teachings became fundamentalist orthodoxy, to such an extent that his doctrines are taught without reference to the source.

 

What I don't understand about Fundamentalism--I was raised in Campbellism--is the link to Pentecostalism from Darby?

 

Pope Leo X was a very evil man and calling him The anti-Christ proves that the Reformation thought that the anti-Christ was yet to come. He might be the head of the EU.

 

I am talking about pre-trib. The Jesuit theory is today's preterism if you ask me.

 

How could Luther have subscribed to a Jesuit theory that came after him that was constructed to take the heat off the awful Popes?

 

I said:

You responded:

First Observation:
I was waiting for your "exegesis" of the verses claiming people will "reign with Him (Christ) for a thousand years" as somehow not meaning a "Millennial Kingdom". Your response is hardly an exegesis. Good grief, man ... it says in plain English that people will reign with Christ (very DEFINITION of a "kingdom") and that this will last 1000 years (the definition of a Millennium). You can argue that the "Millennial Kingdom" will not be as it is described in popular literature, but the existence of a Biblical claim of a "Millennial Kingdom" (the 1000 year reign of Christ) is obvious and irrefutable.

Second Observation:
Your refutation of the 1000 year reign of Christ being a Millennial Kingdom is the simple statement "Satan attacks the kingdom when the 1000 years end". Would this be the event that you are referring to:

[Revelation 19:11-21 NKJV]
11 Now I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse. And He who sat on him [was] called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and makes war. 12 His eyes [were] like a flame of fire, and on His head [were] many crowns. He had a name written that no one knew except Himself. 13 He [was] clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God. 14 And the armies in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean, followed Him on white horses. 15 Now out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should strike the nations. And He Himself will rule them with a rod of iron. He Himself treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 16 And He has on [His] robe and on His thigh a name written: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.
17 Then I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the birds that fly in the midst of heaven, "Come and gather together for the supper of the great God, 18 "that you may eat the flesh of kings, the flesh of captains, the flesh of mighty men, the flesh of horses and of those who sit on them, and the flesh of all [people], free and slave, both small and great."
19 And I saw the beast, the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against Him who sat on the horse and against His army. 20 Then the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who worked signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image. These two were cast alive into the lake of fire burning with brimstone. 21 And the rest were killed with the sword which proceeded from the mouth of Him who sat on the horse. And all the birds were filled with their flesh.

[Revelation 20:7-10 NKJV]
7 Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number [is] as the sand of the sea. 9 They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them. 10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet [are]. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.​

In this "attack" (as you call it), the enemies of God gather to make war (Rev 19:19), then the beast and false prophet are captured and cast into the lake of fire (Rev 19:20), and then Jesus kills the rest of the enemy army all by himself (Rev 19:21) and the birds feast on their corpses. That isn't really much of an attack, is it? Evil shows up and God handles it while the Church cheers God on! Not too different from salvation, if you think about it.

So what exactly is it about this afternoon distraction that nullifies the previous 1000 years of Christ reigning (Rev 20:4-6)?