Passover.......

I would agree. I don't think it is wrong for Jews to observe Passover, but for non-Christian Jews I don't think it is of any benefit. If I were Jewish I would observe Passover.

 

The Passover Seder is a picture of Christ. It is ok for anyone to observe it.

 

Abolished? No. Not required? Probably. I do not see how commemorating Moses and the Iraelites, or Jesus and the last supper, is in any way a bad thing.

 

The jews were told to do this forever, so they are right to continue to do so. However when you become a christian you are intructed by JESUS to observe the LORD's SUPPER until HE returns.

 

One might even see a reason for COMBINING the two services!

 

Mistake! In fact, His "last supper" was NOT a paschal meal. Many reasons for saying so! One: How can the Passover meal be eaten the Passover lamb not slaughtered yet? Actually, it is very silly to think it was Passover meal eaten!

As a matter besides, the Jewish 'Seder' not nearly resembles the Passover (meal) of the Bible!
It is obvious for EVERYBODY. (It's not for me to say.)

Jesus Christ is called "our Passover"; He is called "the Lamb of God" - God's Passover Lamb indeed. So whoever eat of Him, enjoys God's Passover. The Jews don't no anything of God's Passover. And there is but one Passover - they certainly are not the keepers or protectors of it!
It is for Christians.

 

It is for Christians, not meaning they must still eat the Passover meal - again, totally impossible since how can the meal be eaten it's main 'course' absent - the flesh of the sacrifice?
It is for Christians, spiritually - that is, by faith and through faith to eat, like in Colossians 2:16-17 it says,
"Do not you (the Christian Church) let anybody (of the 'world' that includes the Jews) judge (or) condemn you regarding eating and drinking of feast, in fact in regard to month's or Sabbath's feast!"
So here Paul defends the Church, feasting her Sabbaths' Feasts of Christ-Feast, "eating and drinking of "the Lord's Supper".

 

Mistake! In fact, His "last supper" was NOT a paschal meal. Many reasons for saying so! One: How can the Passover meal be eaten the Passover lamb not slaughtered yet? Actually, it is very silly to think it was Passover meal eaten!</font>[/QUOTE]Jesus Christ did in fact fulfill Passover, as well as many other things in the Law. But to say "it is very silly to think it was Passover meal eaten" is non-scrptural, to say the least. Jesus himself called the meal pascha, or Passover as it is translated these days (see Matthew 26:17-19; Mark 14:14-16; and Luke 22:7-15). In fact it is very silly to think the meal was not the Passover, when Jesus Himself called it just that.

 

So should we Baptists use Welch's grape juice for the 5 cups of wine (Don't forget Elijah)?

HankD

 

There's nothing to indicate that Christian Jews DID celebrate the Passover either. Of course unconverted Jews continued to do so, probably many Christain Jews did so out of tradition or peer pressure. But Paul's instruction in the epistles, and the whole theme of Hebrews would indicate that the Passover is no longer merely a ceremony, but has been fulfilled in truth forever in Christ.

No one need observe it anymore because Christ brought that shadow to it's ultimate completion in Himself. That is the essence of the "new convenant" in Christ's blood. At the final ceremonial Passover, Christ held up the symbol of His blood and declared a new agreement with God's people, centered around His bringing to an end the works of the Law (of which the Passover is one). The old covenant has been overshadowed by the new.

Today, under the new covenant, we observe the Passover by trusting in the sufficiency of Christ's sacrifice alone, apart from any works (including Passover observance).

 

I admit, and agree - fully!

Doesn't mean the Last Supper of Christ's was the Passover Meal.
I say it was a NEW thing, a completely Christian Institution.

 

Quoting Keith M,
"Jesus Christ did in fact fulfill Passover, as well as many other things in the Law. But to say "it is very silly to think it was Passover meal eaten" is non-scrptural, to say the least. Jesus himself called the meal pascha, or Passover as it is translated these days (see Matthew 26:17-19; Mark 14:14-16; and Luke 22:7-15). In fact it is very silly to think the meal was not the Passover, when Jesus Himself called it just that."

First statement, "Jesus Christ did in fact fulfill Passover, as well as many other things in the Law."
Absolutely!

Second statement:
"But to say "it is very silly to think it was Passover meal eaten" is non-scrptural, to say the least."
I meant the Last-Supper incidence was not the Passover Meal eaten, but the New Institution called by the New Name, "The Lord's Supper". Two things; different things. Absolutely Scriptural!

Third statement:
"Jesus himself called the meal pascha, or Passover as it is translated these days".
With certain reservations, accepted!

But as for specifics - refer the texts you mention - each must be understood individually and in context. Generalities do not apply where - note - Jesus gives instructions to "prepare FOR, the Passover" (experience of Christ) of and on the pending day that only then had started, Nisan 14.

 

For ever never ends, but the ceremony has become obsolete. We keep it in Christ--in the same way we keep all the Law in Him. Hebrews 8-10 deals with this concept in detail.

While the specific reference of the Passover to Israel was deliverance from Egypt to become a nation of God's chosen people, that is simply a type of our spiritual deliverance from the power of sin and Satan to become a new chosen people of God through our Passover Lamb, Jesus Christ.

No feast or ceremony of the old covenant was unaffected when the new covenant eclipsed the old. The spiritual reality in Christ replaces the old physical shadow observances.

 

I believe Passover and Communion are the same ordenance. We just understand it better now and rename it. Passover reprisented what Jesus fulfilled. Both Passover and Communion/Lords supper celebrate Gods salvation. When I take the Lords Supper I think of it as a Passover feast, it reprisents Gods salvation to bring me out to the world by painting the Blood of The Lamb on me.

I also think the reasons for the Passover and the Lords supper are the same. One for remeberance:

And Moses said to the people:
“Remember this day in which you went out of Egypt, out of the house of bondage; for by strength of hand the LORD brought you out of this place.
Exodus 13:3

but also-

And it shall be, when your children say to you, ‘What do you mean by this service?’ 27 that you shall say , ‘It is the Passover sacrifice of the LORD, who passed over the houses of the children of Israel in Egypt when He struck the Egyptians and delivered our households.’ So the people bowed their heads and worshiped.
Exodus 12:25-28

And you shall tell your son in that day, saying, ‘ This is done because of what the LORD did for me when I came up from Egypt.
Exodus 13:8

The Lords supper makes our children ask questions. We should use the oppertunity to explain what it is we are remembering and how the Lord saved us by the Blood of the Lamb.