Featured "Women's roles in the church"

I am a sure I am not the only man here that cringed when reading his statement.

 

Culture changed. God did not change.

 

Is this referring to a form of church that does not even let women teach other women? Or teach children? That sounds just as unscriptural as women not "keeping silent" in the assembly.

 

A little bit more on cultural accommodation. The bible ameliorates the current situation, and provides direction that points the way forward to a better future.
Slavery was addressed, but the seed was sown to treat fellow Christians as siblings, which in our culture informed our Civil War and Civil rights movements.
MLK convicted the nation using Christian values, and to this day we have a dream.

And just as those like myself who say, lets consider our view of women in the ministry, are charged with liberalism, the folks on the other side are charged with chauvinistic bias. We need more light and less heat.

 

Well, if it bothered me, I would probably try to find something to volunteer for that didn’t require my presence in that class. Understand that men can find themselves in a similar situation.

Also, I have known plenty of women in church who were more “spiritual” than me, and I’m sure they knew it too; but they never thought it their place to “instruct” me. They left that to other men, and God. To think a godly woman cannot influence men without “teaching” them is wrongheaded. God has ways.

 

I think the scripture is clear.

Women have a definite and perhaps even a more fruitful role in the harvest of souls with children and other women.
The gospel in the ears of children via women is very fruitful. God leaves the hard cases of vulgar men to other men.

HOWEVER (big however) As in the case of Hulda and Deborah when men abandon their responsibility given them by God (Cowardice, greed, lust, whatever) then we ought not be surprised when He shames the men by filling the breech with women.

 

But He will not call a woman to act contrary to His Word.

 

He does whatever He pleases.

Psalm 115:3 But our God is in the heavens: he hath done whatsoever he hath pleased.

 

God does not please to act contrary to His Word.

 

You might.

 

No, the church I go to has its issues but they are not my problem. When I left church leadership, they became someone else's problem.

 

To make exception is NOT to act contrary

He makes the rules:

Exodus 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

And then when it pleases Him, He even makes exceptions
Exodus 25:18 And thou shalt make two cherubims of gold, of beaten work shalt thou make them, in the two ends of the mercy seat.

 

And you really think the Ark is a "graven image"?

 

READ THE COMMANDMENT AGAIN.


Exodus 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

NIV Exodus 20:4 "You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below.

God makes the rules, God makes exceptions and or changes to the rules.

Read Acts chapters 10 and 15 to see how God changed the covenant rules when the gentiles were freely accepted by God. Do you eat Pork? Why did God change His mind about that?

Repeat: God makes the rules, God makes exceptions and or changes to the rules as He pleases.

 

So, you think the Ark was an Idol?

 

The Hebrew word is pecel literally image. So yes the cherubim were images of angelic beings.

Even pictures (art work) were forbidden under the law.
Numbers 33:52 Then ye shall drive out all the inhabitants of the land from before you, and destroy all their pictures, and destroy all their molten images, and quite pluck down all their high places:

God made exceptions whenever He wanted.
Numbers 21
8 And the LORD said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live.
9 And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived.