Featured Prove it wrong: There is not one verse about predestination to salvation

Van,
Believe the words, please:

" The preparations of the heart in man, and the answer of the tongue, [is] from the Lord.
2 All the ways of a man [are] clean in his own eyes; but the Lord weigheth the spirits.
3 Commit thy works unto the Lord, and thy thoughts shall be established.
4 The Lord hath made all [things] for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.
5 Every one [that is] proud in heart is an abomination to the Lord: [though] hand [join] in hand, he shall not be unpunished.
6 By mercy and truth iniquity is purged:and by the fear of the Lord [men] depart from evil.
7 When a man’s ways please the Lord, he maketh even his enemies to be at peace with him.
8 Better [is] a little with righteousness than great revenues without right.
9 A man’s heart deviseth his way: but the Lord directeth his steps." ( Proverbs 16:1-9 )

"All things for Himself" means "all things"..."for Himself".

If you're going to accuse someone of having bogus doctrine and of deflecting and obfuscating, then what you're doing is accusing them of not understanding the Scriptures.
The Lord knows that I'm not perfect, and neither are you.
That's where forgiveness comes in, and gracious treatment of one another also comes in.

Now is your chance to show the reader how you understand it and to correct them, lovingly, for being in error.

What does the passage above say, line by line?

 

So you claim salvation outside of Jesus Christ for people who do not know as in their ignorance?
That is the spirit of AntiChrist. Jesus tells us He is the only way to the Father. There is no salvation outside of having your name written in the book of Life of the Lamb of God.

Acts 4:12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

I can see by what you wrote your deflecting from the truth.

 

This is about salvation of the person, as it ends in their glorification with Christ. it is also called the golden chain of redemption.

30 Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified.

Justified by God means your sins are forgiven and your saved.

Romans 3 tells us what justification means, and it means their saved.

21 But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, 22 even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all who believe. For there is no difference; 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 being justified [g]freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God set forth as a [h]propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously committed, 26 to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.

 

I've already proven your table is off-base.

 

#76

You don't need to list references. I already shown the flaw of your arguments.

 

Only in your mind.

 

George this is ridiculous. If you want to take this hardline, nonsensical route, by your standard you must also deny the Trinity.

 

I already did, so sorry, but this is like disputing with a crazy person. It goes no where.

 

So you have a doctorate? From where?

 

What do you mean? You failed to answer each of my questions. So best I can tell, you do not understand.

It seems to me you are making a false accusation because you do not know what you are taking about.

None of that has been denyed and so is not at issue.

That is just what you did by not answering my questions.
Romans 2:1, ". . . Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things. . . ."

 

Adding that infants and little children who have died had their names written in the book of Life from the foundation of the world, but the ones that lived into adulthood and never believed regardless of whether they heard or not, they all willfully sinned and died and therefore they never had their names written in the Book of Life of the Lamb from the foundation of the world.

The ones that died in infancy, God had foreknown that and they were elect, and since knowing Christ and God is by revelation from His Spirit to our own spirits, He can easily have willed that they know Christ and God, even as a little baby. Refer to John the Baptist who leaped in the womb when Christ inside of Mary came to visit them.

Luke 1:41And it happened, when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, that the babe leaped in her womb; and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit.

Luke 1:44For indeed, as soon as the voice of your greeting sounded in my ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy.

God can choose to not impute to a man their sin and will to reveal Himself as the Lord their Savior to anyone He wishes.
.Luke 10
Jesus Rejoices in the Spirit
21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in the Spirit and said, “I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and prudent and revealed them to babes. Even so, Father, for so it seemed good in Your sight. 22 All[g] things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows who the Son is except the Father, and who the Father is except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.”