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Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by evenifigoalone, Jan 3, 2020.

  1. Salty

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    In that case - just link 3 or 4 of your other discussions./
     
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    There may have been some on this site four years ago (particularly, during the threads about who to vote for), but most of the discussions I mentioned were elsewhere, such as Facebook. While I realize this is a debate forum, I simply don't feel like debating in this thread. I don't need to justify that.

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    Since you don't want to debate -
    How about some yes or no answers.

    Should there be a minimum age for marriage
    Should polygamy be allowed
    Should assisted suicide be allowed
    Should the govt require a minimum wage
    Should the govt require people to wear seat belts
    Should the govt require to adults to help their elderly parents
    Should the govt require the non-custodial parent to pay the child college education
     
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    I'm gonna say yes
    unsure
    unsure
    unsure
    unsure
    unsure
    no
     
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    I am not the one with the logic problem.
    All laws are legislated morality.
     
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    Your taunts will not work. Been over this hundreds of times with far better people.
    I am confident in my position and capable of defending it. But not everything has to lead to debate, and not every demand for debate needs to be answered.

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    So what is the difference between homosexual marriage and polygamy ?
     
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    Polygamy was once an appropriate form of marriage spoken about in the Scriptures, so called homosexual marriage never was.
     
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    I'm not objected to it being recognized by the government on moral grounds. But unsure if there's technical stuff that might make implementing it difficult

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    Good way of saying your position is illogical.
     
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    Where does Scripture say that polygamy was appropriate?
     
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    Those passages do not indicate that it was appropriate - rather the verses indicate it occurred.
    Chron Might indicate it was appropriate - but it appears there is more to that then whats on the surface.
     
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    Climate change: I sure hope so. Peach trees won't bloom if the seasons don't change.
    Gun control: Definitely. I always make sure I have control over my guns.
    Welfare: Those who won't work don't eat.
    Taxes: should be flat - no deductions or exemptions.
    Healthcare: prices should be publicly posted and the same price should apply to all. Those who can't afford will be allowed non-dischargeable interest-free loans from the government.
    Abortion: decided by the states.
    Gay marriage: The government should not recognize marriage - period. With no deductions for being married or having children, marriage is no longer needed except for religious reasons.
    Religious freedom to refuse service: Not allowed for professions where the state limits the number of professionals such as medicine, police support, education, etc.
    Marijuana: Stop the war on drugs.
     
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    Of course. Notice though how no one was taken out because of the practice.
     
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    Have you read Article 6 - section 3 of the COTUS?
    3: The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.
    (Bold print -my emphasis)

    Lets say - we did do that - who would determine the interpretation of the Bible, which version and ect.
    Granted - there are many things that would be obvious - murder, stealing, ect.
    But, would that include law of the pharisees, would women be prohibited from talking, and ect.
    And why should an atheist be forced to follow all Biblical law?
     
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    Yes, I read that. You reminded me of it though. My counterargument is simple.

    1. If you read the Supreme Court decisions to see what they draw from, it is all secular philosophies at loggerheads. Really it is a pick your poison kind of choice. A big problem with countering secular philosophy with secular philosophy is that there is no deeper ground for any of them. Whither ontology?

    2. If Jesus invades with the angels today, atheists, really Deists according to scripture, will be judged by Christ's Law in body and soul. If we will judge even angels by Christ's Law, what is it to judge atheists. If atheists are sent to hell for Christ's Law, then why avoid giving them tickets or jail time for it now.

    3. If we argue from scripture for our laws, though in a divided manner, at least we have the proper ground for morality as the basis of our arguments.
     
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    Of course, when Christ returns for his 1,000 year reign - things will be different.
    but until then....
     
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