Pentecostal Order of Salvation

That's what the Rabbi's claim about the Mishnah and other rabbinical commentaries. Yet, Jesus condemned them and their traditions that added more weight to the law.
You show yourself as a legalistic Pharisee who places faith in the commentaries of men while ignoring the word of God.

 

So you do not know one single thing from the scriptures as true? And refuse to learn anything from them?

 

Let's talk about God's word. What does it say?

Galatians 3:3-14 Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh? Did you suffer so many things in vain—if indeed it was in vain? Does he who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you do so by works of the law, or by hearing with faith— just as Abraham “believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness”? Know then that it is those of faith who are the sons of Abraham. And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, “In you shall all the nations be blessed.” So then, those who are of faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith. For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, “Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them.” Now it is evident that no one is justified before God by the law, for “The righteous shall live by faith.” But the law is not of faith, rather “The one who does them shall live by them.” Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us—for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree”— so that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we might receive the promised Spirit through faith.

Matthew 15:2-9 “Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders? For they do not wash their hands when they eat.” He answered them, “And why do you break the commandment of God for the sake of your tradition? For God commanded, ‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘Whoever reviles father or mother must surely die.’ But you say, ‘If anyone tells his father or his mother, “What you would have gained from me is given to God,” he need not honor his father.’ So for the sake of your tradition you have made void the wordof God. You hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy of you, when he said: “‘This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me; in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’”

 

So you are producing a creed but condemn those who really know what scripture says from doing the same.

 

I would like to see Amillennialism presented in a Creed and then PROVEN in Scripture.
That seems like a pretty tall order.

 

How familiar are you with the creeds? Do you trust their accuracy?

 

To those so vehemently opposed to Creeds, let's look at one of the earliest and simplest Creeds: the "Apostles Creed" (which is reported to summarize the teachings of the Apostles).

I believe in God, the Father almighty,
creator of heaven and earth.

I believe in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord,
who was conceived by the Holy Spirit
and born of the virgin Mary.
He suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died, and was buried;
he descended to hell.
The third day he rose again from the dead.
He ascended to heaven
and is seated at the right hand of God the Father almighty.
From there he will come to judge the living and the dead.

I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the holy catholic* church,
the communion of saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body,
and the life everlasting. Amen.

*that is, the true Christian church of all times and all places​

So I will start at the beginning:
"I believe in God, the Father almighty, creator of heaven and earth."

• I do believe in God. As stated in Romans 1:20, the existence of God and His invisible attributes are self evident.
  
  • [Rom 1:20 NASB] "For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse."
• God is "the Father almighty" and God did create "Heaven and Earth"
  • [2Co 6:18 NASB] "And I will be a father to you, And you shall be sons and daughters to Me," Says the Lord Almighty.
  • [Gen 14:19 NASB] He blessed him and said, "Blessed be Abram of God Most High, Possessor of heaven and earth;
  • [Exo 31:17 NASB] "It is a sign between Me and the sons of Israel forever; for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, but on the seventh day He ceased [from labor,] and was refreshed."
  • [2Ki 19:15 NASB] Hezekiah prayed before the LORD and said, "O LORD, the God of Israel, who are enthroned [above] the cherubim, You are the God, You alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth. You have made heaven and earth.
  • [2Ch 2:12 NASB] Then Huram continued, "Blessed be the LORD, the God of Israel, who has made heaven and earth, who has given King David a wise son, endowed with discretion and understanding, who will build a house for the LORD and a royal palace for himself.
  • [Psa 115:15 NASB] May you be blessed of the LORD, Maker of heaven and earth.
  • [Psa 121:2 NASB] My help [comes] from the LORD, Who made heaven and earth.
  • [Psa 124:8 NASB] Our help is in the name of the LORD, Who made heaven and earth.
  • [Psa 134:3 NASB] May the LORD bless you from Zion, He who made heaven and earth.
  • [Mat 11:25 NASB] At that time Jesus said, "I praise You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from [the] wise and intelligent and have revealed them to infants.
  • [Luk 10:21 NASB] At that very time He rejoiced greatly in the Holy Spirit, and said, "I praise You, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from [the] wise and intelligent and have revealed them to infants. Yes, Father, for this way was well-pleasing in Your sight.
  • [Act 17:24 NASB] "The God who made the world and all things in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands;

So far, I can see no conflict between the Apostles creed and the teaching of Scripture.
Any corrections needed for the first part?

 

More with some and less with others.
Those that I really like:

• Nicene Creed
• Heidelberg Catechism (technically a Catechism rather than a Creed)

Those that I have read:

• Apostles Creed
• Athanasian Creed
• Westminster Confession of Faith (1647)
  
• Baptist Confession of Faith (1689)
• Baptist Faith and Message (2000)

That is a more difficult question. I believe that they accurately reflect the beliefs of the groups that wrote them and the time that they were written. I think some of the language was carefully chosen for political reasons among the committee. Where I have verified the statements of Creeds and Catechisms against actual scripture and affirmed the teaching for myself, I trust the creed to accurately summarize Biblical Truth. Where I have read a creed or catechism and not personally verified the statement with scripture, I accept it as a learned opinion worth consideration, but not as completely trustworthy.

Obviously, in all cases, Sola Scriptura prevails and Creeds are aids but not scripture.

 

Are you demoting God's word to a creed of men and lifting up the creeds of men to equality with God?
It sure seems like you are.
Tell me how I create a creed by sharing God's word with you?

I'm beginning to think you are clueless about creeds.

 

How familiar are you with the Creeds? Do you trust them above God and His word?

 

Rocky, how can you, a sinner by birth, still fighting daily with your sinful flesh, consider yourself to be a judge of light and darkness?

 

Bravo, atpollard, you are checking God's word against the creed. No one has said that all creeds or statements within a creed are wrong. I simply state that a creed must be tested by God's word and rejected if there is conflict with God's word. I state that the creeds are creations of sinful men who are prone to bias and corrupt thinking, but God's word is holy and the authority over and above the creeds.

 

That didn't answer the question, but it did tell me how you heat your house.
Now, how do you, a sinner through and through, declare that you are the judge of light and darkness?

 

Act 17 is Paul's message in Athens, to pagans. How does it answer my question?
I take it, you cannot answer my question so you're just tossing out random statements. That is what happens when God's word takes second place to feelings.