Who Would Win a Civil War?

Feel free to report it to a moderator if you think it is “low.” I am only asking it of Quantill because of previous interactions and his prediction of a coming “race war.” A “race war” is a fundamental conviction of white supremacists. Not that many other groups claim something like that will happen. It is a perfectly rational question, and extremely easy for him to answer to my satisfaction if he denies he is a member of a white supremacist organization. But those who are white supremacists have a hard time denying that they are, since it would be a repudiation of white pride. So deflection from the question may indicate the answer.

I have no problem telling others that I am not a white aupremacist. What about you?

You couldn’t be more wrong. I am used to having calm and rational conversations with people with whom I strongly disagree. I rarely ever get “emotional.”

I haven’t suggested it, I have simply asked a question that should be very easy to answer. It is not a trick, nor insincere.

No, I don’t think so. He recently attacked me as having “typical” views for a black person (he assumed that from my avatar of Daryl Davis) and applied ethnic stereotypes to what I had written instead of dealing with the content of what I had written.

I demanded no apology, but it did make me take note of how he seems to approach everything according to “race.”

So Revmitchell, you are butting into a conversation you don’t understand OR if you do understand, you are expressing support for his recent posting behavior.

 

I was saying that the saved and the lost will be at war, and more of the Biden supporters would be i the lost camp!

 

No...it's a buzz word used to manipulate a readers response.

How is it babbling? The title of this thread concerns a possible upcoming 'civil war'? I am expressing how that war is really going to play out. Oh, I see. Your afraid of a race war and it has struck a nerve. Gee, I thought you told me you were white. I am starting to question the credibility of your claim.

Typical...in that it is typical of black racists, and whites who want to identify with black racists, to use such methods. These buzz words are to by pass the brain and go to the emotion.

It's very easy to say no when I don't know what a white 'suoremacist' organization is. Oh, you meant 'supremacist'. Well, I am white. Therefore I must be part of a white supremacist organization. Don't you agree?

Are you a member of the NAACP, BLM, SPLC? Do you support these racist organizations? You appear obsessed with white supremacy. Why is that?

Quantrill

 

I appreciate your input.

Myself, I do not need or want an apology. I see a forum for a place to debate these very issues. In other words, I consider it as part of the territory.

But, as I said, I appreciate your input.

Quantirll

 

It is called 'white supremacist'. Why do you insist on misspelling this.

What definition are you using for 'white supremacist'? As I said, I am white. I know you said you are too but on these forums anyone can say anything...correct?

You consider my use of 'typical' as an 'attack'. You better back off now as you have pretty thin skin if that was an 'attack'.

Go back to the posts I referred you to, post #(5) and (9). Tell me what in those posts merits your questions to me of belonging to a white supremacist organization?

Don't worry, I don't want any apology. But, you haven't proven that my recent posting behavior is wrong or in error. And it's my understanding that anyone can 'butt' in whenever they like. "Forum".

Quantrill

 

I get that its not just about you though. We cant have these libbies running around accusing people of this stuff just because they cant control their temper.

 

Wearisome are the reality denying, conspiracy theory pushing attitudes that search for a Christian, straight, white male "boogeyman" under every tombstone and monument while ignoring the real threats that abound.

The country is teeming with all manner of extremely racist, anti-America, domestic terrorists brazenly acting out with impunity and even with Dem MSM and government support—BLM and Antifa being two of the worst—yet the inquisitional concern is over the isolated expression of a general opinion that supposedly resembles something a “white supremacist” might say? Madness. Madness.

 

I understand. But I don't think silencing the accuser solves anything. This issue, this argument, needs to be said. As it proceeds you may find you agree with him against me. But that matters not to me either. The point is, the discussion, or argument needs to take place.

The very reason the U.S. cannot solve this division in America is because it refuses to admit that it has been wrong. That diversity is our strength, when in fact it is our weakness. That race doesn't matter. When in fact race does matter.

If race doesn't matter, why is there the NAACP? Or the BLM, or SPLC. You see. Race is important to all races other than the white race. If your of the white race you're to be shamed and guilty. The other races however are full of culture and to be praised.

But if your white and proud of your culture and race, oh my, you're a white supremacist. If you want a month declaring white culture month, you're a white supremacist. If you want to advance the culture of white people, like the NAACP does for blacks, your a white supremacist.

Quantrill

 

In light of the fact that this thread is discussing aspects of a civil war in this country, how do you see our freedom in Christ being applicable?

[Rom 6:18 KJV] 18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

Our freedom in Christ is of a spiritual nature, not physical.

 

The reason for group differences are not limited to "race," and God did not originally divide us by race but by language. The results are more complicated, but generally speaking, group differences are primarily due to predominate culture (or subculture), though genetics will factor in, especially as they affect appearance.

The world is far more divided than we usually admit in America, because of the prevailing culture. This makes it hard to have the discussion. And note that people will argue over the language, even try to subvert the language so that it becomes nearly impossible. Seems this phenomenon rears its ugly head in many contexts.

 

No easy way to stop them. Perhaps that is why this discussion is taking place.

[Isa 5:20-21 KJV] 20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! 21 Woe unto [them that are] wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!

 

I believe our 'group differences' are there because God placed them there to divide. (Gen. 10:5) Here you see the nations of the Gentiles divided. Then in (10:25) God divided the 'earth'. I am of the opinion that here that this division of the earth is the result of geographical change such as the oceans. And of course you have Babel where further division is made (Gen. 11:8-9)

These divisions of people are based upon the three sons of Noah. Shem, Ham, and Japheth. (Gen. 10:32) And Noah's prophecies concerning these are still in place today. (Gen. 9:24-29)

So, when in the course of these events God created the distinguishable races of man, we are not told. But I have no doubt that they are of God, for the purpose of dividing man. Why? Because man united turned into what God had to destroy with the flood. So He created division. And what does man seek. Unity. Man glorifies unity when God knows man needs divisions.

Quantrill

 

Such belief is not supported by scripture. Paul often urged unity among the brethren and peace with everyone else.

All are created in the image of God. In Christ no male/female.. Jew/Greek.. slave/free... God calls for unity.

It is mankind that divides by race and can only the outer characteristics and not the inner person.

peace to you

 

Actually Paul says factions must necessarily exist to show those who are true and approved of God.
The ones on the wrong side do receive judgement, in this case many were sick and some died, but these were still even though judged by the LORD of the church and not the world. God disciplines us so we do not get judged along with the world, the discipline can involve sinning unto a physical death.

1 Corinthians 11:18-20
New King James Version
18 For first of all, when you come together as a church, I hear that there are divisions among you, and in part I believe it. 19 For there must also be factions among you, that those who are approved may be [a]recognized among you. 20 Therefore when you come together in one place, it is not to eat the Lord’s Supper.

 

“The time is now near at hand which must probably determine whether Americans are to be freemen or slaves; whether they are to have any property they can call their own; whether their houses and farms are to be pillaged and destroyed, and themselves consigned to a state of wretchedness from which no human efforts will deliver them. The fate of unborn millions will now depend, under God, on the courage and conduct of this army. Our cruel and unrelenting enemy leaves us only the choice of brave resistance, or the most abject submission. We have, therefore, to resolve to conquer or die.” – General George Washington, Address to the Continental Army Before the Battle of Long Island, August 27, 1776

https://oathkeepers.org/2020/12/ope...on-act-to-stop-the-steal-and-defeat-the-coup/

 

The LEFT socialists tear down our statues and burn our history because its ideas are a threat to them.

 

Paul is chastising them for their division (v.17 which you left out).

Unity is from God. Division is from mankind.

Peace to you

 

Point is the division always exists, in church and society.
In the example I showed, these factions existed between believers and they do so today.

Division is from God separating his people from the world
Christ brings a sword and division.

 

The discussion was that the divisions were created by God based on race. The statement I rejected was that God created the divisions based on race and mankind wants unity.

Scripture teaches the opposite.

peace to you

 

I gave Scripture.

Unity among the brethren is not what is being discussed.

Quantrill