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No. It is what I had prior to joining both churches had came to believed from my own study. I was a Christian already eight years. Both churches were pre trib. But that teaching was not part of their statement of faith. I was already post trib. If pre trib was in their statement I would not have joined either. Though I have no objections attending.

 

Maybe. But I do not merely think this. The Revelation of Jesus Christ has this seal, Revelation 22:18-19, ". . . For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the tree of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. . . ." Now Revelation 20:2-6 is explicitly pre mill as I have long understood it's text. My view post trib, Matthew 24:29-31, 1 Corinthians 15:52, pre wrath, Revelation 6:12-17, 1 Thessalonians 1:10.

 

Scofield 1917 edition I got as a new Christian. And as a young adult a Strong's Exhaustive Concordance became my main study tool. To understand what I was believing, John Walvoord's, "The Rapture Question." It was after reading his explanations I discovered my view to be post trib. And this was before I joined Faith Baptist Church of Canoga Park in the summer of 1970. I was lead to Christ in the summer of 1962 through that church.

 

We do not agree. 1 Corinthians 15:52 ". . . the last . . . ." trumpet. We can argue past each other. Or we can slow down set each point of difference side by side.

 

A key to the post trib view. 2 Peter 3:8. There is only the one first resurrection, Revelation 20:6. There is only one "the last" trumpet, Matthew 24:31, 1 Thessalonians 4:16. There is only one second appearing, Hebrews 9:28, Titus 2:13, 1 John 3:2.

 

Order IMHO = A,B,C

Give your understanding of the following scripture.

And now, (A) Christ hath risen out of the dead -- (A) the first-fruit of those sleeping he became, for since through man is the death, also through man is a rising again of the dead, for even as in Adam all die, so also in the Christ all shall be made alive, and each in his proper order, (A) a first-fruit Christ, afterwards those who are the (B) Christ's, in his presence, then (Then, when?) -- the end, (C) ? the rest of the dead?) when he may deliver up the reign to God, even the Father, when he may have made useless all rule, and all authority and power -- for it behoveth him to reign till he may have put all the enemies under his feet -- the last enemy is done away -- (the, it's in the Greek) death;

Elaborate, if you will, "on in his presence," relative to yourself. Is that, "in his presence," the same moment as 1 Cor 15:51,52?
Is that when you, in body, will either be instantly changed or raised incorruptible? Speak to that, proper order.

One more thought which I believe to be relative. Can 2 Peter 3:8 apply to your John 5 and 6 concept of, I will raise him up on the last day? And this one thing let not be unobserved by you, beloved, that one day with the Lord is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day;

Consider, each in his proper order.

 

I believe John 5:24 is in the same context as Romans 6:5,8 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him: - and the context there being in the, future