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Noah was saved, as wicked as ungodly as he was(which every human being is by nature and in practice), by God's sovereign grace, just anyone ever saved is.

Genesis 6:5-8 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them. But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD. (emphasis mine)


Abraham looked forward to and was glad to see Christ.

John 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad.” (emphasis mine)


Old Testament saints certainly looked forward and saw Christ.

Hebrews 11:13-16 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country. And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned. But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city. (emphasis mine)


Salvation has always been by the imputation of the sins of God's elect to Christ and the imputation of Christ's perfect righteousness to God's elect. Thus, even though the elect are ungodly, by nature and in practice, they are made perfect as Christ said that they must be - Matthew 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.; Hebrews 12:14 Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord

 

The Old Testament saints knew about Christ as soon as Adam sinned in the Garden of Eden and God explained to Adam, Even and the serpent what the repercussions would be.

Genesis 3:15 and I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. (emphasis mine)

 

The OP should read Hebrews. There we see that the saints of old were justified by faith in the Promise (Abrahamic Covenant, not Mosaic Covenant), which is Jesus, the one who atoned for their sins just as Jesus atoned for all who believe.
Hebrews 11:13,16,39-40
These all died in faith, not having received the things promised, but having seen them and greeted them from afar, and having acknowledged that they were strangers and exiles on the earth.

But as it is, they desire a better country, that is, a heavenly one.

Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared for them a city. And all these, though commended through their faith, did not receive what was promised, since God had provided something better for us, that apart from us they should not be made perfect.

 

All OT appearances of God was the Son. John 1:18.

 

Where do you come up with "usually"?

 

But the Messiah and Christ are the same person so what is the difference? I don't get your distinction here.

 

Nowhere in your answer does it show that USUALLY God draws people to Christ.

 

Van,

Is there anyone found in the OT that can be shown as seeking God prior to God calling them?
Adam? Nope
Noah? Nope
Abraham? Nope
Moses? Nope
Joshua? Nope
Any Judges? Nope
Samuel? Nope
Saul, David, or Solomon? Nope
How about one of the prophets? Nope

It is not until the Birth we actually read of folks actively seeking, but even then they were prompted by sign and wonders to do so.

 

Your verse quote leaves out the context.

this isn’t what the people did, it is a portion of the message being delivered.

1Now the Spirit of God came upon Azariah son of Oded. 2So he went out to meet Asa and said to him, “Listen to me, Asa and all Judah and Benjamin. The LORD is with you when you are with Him. If you seek Him, He will be found by you, but if you forsake Him, He will forsake you. 3For many years Israel has been without the true God, without a priest to instruct them, and without the law. 4But in their distress they turned to the LORD, the God of Israel, and sought Him, and He was found by them. 5In those days there was no safety for travelers, because the residents of the lands had many conflicts. 6Nation was crushed by nation, and city by city, for God afflicted them with all kinds of adversity. 7But as for you, be strong; do not be discouraged, for your work will be rewarded.”
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I do not see your post as rising to the challenge and refuting what I presented.

I neglected to add this bit from the previous chapter which is why the Lord spoke in terms He did that I posted.

2And Asa did what was good and right in the eyes of the LORD his God. 3He removed the foreign altars and high places, shattered the sacred pillars, and chopped down the Asherah poles. 4He commanded the people of Judah to seek the LORD, the God of their fathers, and to observe the law and the commandments. 5He also removed the high places and incense altars from all the cities of Judah, and under him the kingdom was at peace.​

 

Question: Is the book of Deuteronomy addressing the chosen, elect, covenant people of God...or is it addressing pagans?

 

Would you seek God if the ruler threatened you with death if you did not?

13And whoever would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, would be put to death, whether young or old, man or woman.
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Folks seek God AFTER God first deals with them and sends a messenger. This is shown in the context of 2 Chronicles 14 and 15.

Is your own bias is preventing you from acknowledging the true?

We are not “under sin” but the unbeliever is a slave in bondage to the desires of the flesh, as the Scriptures state:

15Do not love the world nor the things in the world. If anyone should love the world, the love of the Father is not in him, 16because all that is in the world, the desire of the flesh and the desire of the eyes and the vaunting of life, is not from the Father, but is from the world. 17And the world is passing away, and its desire; but the one doing the will of God abides to the age.
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All I ask was for one example of someone seeking God without first God delivering a message, calling personally upon them, or in some manner impressing the need upon them.

YOU claim “The OT is full of examples of people seeking God, and others choosing not to seek God.”.

You haven’t given even one.

The closest perhaps could be the account of Hanna. However, God has first closed her womb, given her one to taunt her, and yet she and her husband continued to worship. Therefore, that one doesn’t count does it?