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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by 37818, Nov 25, 2022.

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    AustinC Well-Known Member

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    What part about chosen before the foundation of the world and predestined don't you understand?

    Again how are we Son's far before we are ever adopted? Honestly, if we are son's...that means we are...adopted! How else could we, who are only able to be son's by being in Christ, be son's if we aren't already adopted?
     
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    By you asking even after the word of God clearly explaines, you really do not understand.
    Are we physically resurrect or raptured as soon as we are born again?
    Romans 8:23, ". . . waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body. . . ." Who are the ones waiting? What are they waiting for for? The adoption. The adoption to do what?
     
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    37, you have nothing and keep avoiding the direct question being asked.
    "How is a person a Son of God before he has ever been adopted?" Please answer the question. The texts in the Bible prove to me that it can't be done. Yet, you keep pushing it anyway. So, answer the question.
     
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    I answered it.
    And you truly seem incapable of understanding it. It is a son that is to be placed as a son. And you deny the Biblical definition give by the word of God itself, Romans 8:23, ". . . the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body. . . ."
     
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    "It is a son that is to be placed as a son."

    Wow, you have literally regressed to speaking nonsense.

    You must do this because you cannot accept the text that tells you you were chosen, elect, adopted and predestined before the foundation of the world.

    You are now speaking nonsense when you state "It is a son that is to be placed as a son."

    Good night.
     
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    Do you think the word of God is nonsense? I do not believe you do.
    υιοθεσια is the Greek word meaning "to place as a son" being translated as adoption.
    Is a compound word.
    υιος meaning son
    And the second part is from τιθημι meaning to place.
     
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    Your interpretation is nonsense. Keep up here. You imagine that you are a full blown son of the most high God, but not yet adopted as his child. That imagination of yours cause you to be illogical, despite the Bible telling you that your adoption is set before the foundation of the world. This is why you receive your inheritance in the culmination of the New Covenant.
     
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    Your interpretation is unBiblical.
     
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    It's biblical. Very few people hold your view while the reformed community holds my view. The issue isn't about being biblical. The issue is about you being unwilling to accept what the Bible says about adoption. You want to be a full fledged son, like Jesus, but then later you imagine you'd be adopted. That view is not found anywhere in the Bible. We cannot be son's of God if we haven't already been adopted.
     
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    The Biblical view is as follows:
     
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    You have been shown your error by more than me. You can remain in your error.
     
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