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I read what you wrote here and note that it is a wrong interpretation. Therefore you condemn yourself.

 

@Cathode you have to realize that Austin always thinks he is right but he can't help it, God determined him to be that way.

 

I disagree with your interpretation of love and the universalism you use, which ultimately makes God a liar.
You seem more than comfortable with living in massive contradiction (as Sliverhair does) without ever considering that a loving God executes justice. You seem to openly ignore context in the passage where it says God desires all men to be saved. If you would take only 5 minutes to read through the verses that come before this, you would see what Paul is saying, but will you? Likely not, because the whole of scripture would destroy the narrative you have clung to.

 

How does a thread called "The Mark is Coming" turn into a debate on determinism or Calvinism? Why don't those who hold to Calvinism read Dr. Ken Wilson's dissertation on the "The Foundation of Augustinian-Calvinism"? Even Dr. James White refuses to debate Dr. Wilson over this.

But yes, I agree, the foundations for the mark and the framework are being prepared.

 

What is his reasoning for not wanting to debate?

white is not obligated

maybe he sees futility in trying to debate someone for his own reason?

maybe he doesn’t want to beat his head against the wall

 

Well, he is somewhat is obligated after claiming he was preparing to debate Dr. Wilson on his Dividing Line program and never came through with his claim. Dr. Wilson has repeatedly offered to debate but White has backed down the same way he did with Ruckman years ago.

'maybe he doesn’t want to beat his head against the wall'

Maybe he is afraid his philosophy will be exposed and is using excuses not to debate Dr. Wilson.

 

Peter Ruckman is laughable and sad at the same time

I can assure you that White is NOT afraid of him

 

'Are you seeing the framework as outlined in my OP?'

Unfortunately, yes. I have never seen anything like this in my lifetime and I am praying for divine intervention and asking God to buy us some time. I am also mid-trib but wish in my heart pre-trib was right for I am ready to go and would love nothing more than for Christ to take us away from it all TODAY.

But even in the midst of it all there is hope (Acts 3:19-21) KJV. God does have a plan of restoration and counter measures (Rev 11:3-13; Isa 59:19) KJV.

 

'I wouldn’t get your hopes up for rapture mate, it’s not a Christian doctrine'

Some call it being 'caught up' according to Scripture, that being, "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord." (I Thessalonians 4:16-17) KJV. I trust the Scriptures on being 'caught up in the clouds' with the Lord but believe it will be halfway into the seven-year tribulation period.

But I agree with much of what you're saying in that there will be hard times coming (along with restoration) with the worst of it during the last 3 1/2 years. Thus, your OP about 'The Mark is Coming' is accurate. As far as the Pharaoh comparison, remember that God did make a difference with the Israelites in Goshen. The 'remnant Church' as you call it I believe is the Bride of Christ.

Blessings....

 

The message of revelation is a very simple one: THE LAMB WINS
The Mark has been with us ever since Revelation was written. Christians in the Roman Empire could not practise a trade unless they were prepared to offer a pinch of incense to whatever deity their trade was dedicated to.
During the Middle Ages, one had to attend the 'mass' and pretend that God was a piece of bread or be burned. In the 17th Century, in England, Baptists were persecuted and until the 19th Century you had to be Church of England to go to University.
Today in Islamic countries one cannot get a proper job unless one recites the appropriate verse from the Koran; in India you have to bow down before the elephant god, and so it goes on.
In atheist countries like China and North Korea things are even worse. So why should we in the West suppose that we shall be immune indefinitely

 

Considering the utter prejudiced glasses your narrative presents, I recognize your inaccurate assertions as entirely biased by church and not by facts

 

If we are simply talking about official executions during the Spanish Inquisition, most contemporary experts would place the total number of executions between 3,000 and 10,000, with perhaps an additional 100,000 to 125,000 dying in prison as a result of torture and maltreatment. The Inquisition in neighboring Portugal resulted in even fewer such deaths (cf. Joseph Pérez, The Spanish Inquisition [Profile Books, 2006], 173; R. J. Rummel, Death by Government [Transaction Publishers, 2009], 62).

Whether it was 3000 or 125000 that died as a result of the questioning it does not lessen the fact that this was done by the church. Where do we see this kind of behavior condoned in the bible?

I find it odd that you would compare the actions of the inquisition to justice of that time. These were supposed to be men of God and yet they did not act as men of God.

Please do not say but God did this to pagans in the OT. God knows the heart, in the inquisition we had man trying to act as if they were God.